Gold card evening restrictions?

[island]

In http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/season_tickets/GC_TandC_May11_update.pdf, I notice section 4.5 (d) and (e) making reference to Gold Card discounted tickets not being valid on some Monday to Friday services from [stn]KGX[/stn], [stn]LST[/stn], [stn]PAD[/stn], and [stn]STP[/stn], and on some northbound First Capital Connect services.

When did that sneak in? And how are we supposed to know which services?

Also, from 02-JNR-12, the CHNGC flat fare will double to £2.

 

[Urban Gateline]

In http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/season_tickets/GC_TandC_May11_update.pdf, I notice section 4.5 (d) and (e) making reference to Gold Card discounted tickets not being valid on some Monday to Friday services from [stn]KGX[/stn], [stn]LST[/stn], [stn]PAD[/stn], and [stn]STP[/stn], and on some northbound First Capital Connect services.

When did that sneak in? And how are we supposed to know which services?

Also, from 02-JNR-12, the CHNGC flat fare will double to £2.

Doesn't this refer to the Super Off-Peak tickets to and from these London terminals? As obviously some of those tickets are restricted during the evening peak. That's how I read it, could be wrong though!

Admittedly the terms should be much better publicised, I bet most rail users won't have come accross them before!

 

[LexyBoy]

How strange. As molesey boy suggests, it could be referring to Off Peak tickets (Super Off Peak tickets aren't available within the Network area on FGW or FCC to my knowledge, not sure about NXEA) - but then what relevance is that, as Anytime tickets can be discounted too. Perhaps someone got a bit confused when writing it - certainly tickets discounted by virtue of being Off Peak are not valid on certain services, but being discounted by a Railcard discount shouldn't affect this.

A quick check on evening journeys PAD>RDG, PAD>EAL, KGX>SVG and STP>SAC on NRE gives the Gold Card discount on all services.

And how are we supposed to know which services?

I'm sure the Train Operating Companies will make it clear at stations and in their publicity

 

[philjo]

FCC do issue super off peak DAY tickets but they only valid at weekends/bank holidays when no time restrictions apply and they are only available issued TO London terminals/Thameslink or as a London travelcard. (e.g. Stevenage to London you can get a super off peak day return at weekends - not available for London to Stevenage.)


There is no mention of any weekday evening gold card (or other railcard) restrictions on the FCC website or in the December GN timetable booklet which does list the other evening peak ticket restrictions.

http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk/static/timetables/timetable/FC1112_GN_WEB.pdf