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Never visited it or been near it but a picture of Berney Arms Station suggests it has limited use - not only unmanned but unlit.
 
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Never visited it or been near it but a picture of Berney Arms Station suggests it has limited use - not only unmanned but unlit.

Berney Arms is actually very popular with walkers, and is the only easy way of accessing a pub of the same name. It will leave a big void if it closed. :)
 

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Salwick on the preston-blackpool line as i dont think i've seen a train stop there yet!!

It is used (and I have stopped at it!).

I was walking around there some months ago, noticed a man waiting for a train and wondered if it was fair to shout down to him that my quick glance at the timetable suggested he might be waiting until the next morning :oops::oops:
 

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I'd close Barnhill in Glasgow, Scotland. You can see Springburn station from Barnhill's platform! It's too close to Springburn!
 

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Berney Arms is actually very popular with walkers, and is the only easy way of accessing a pub of the same name. It will leave a big void if it closed. :)
All those 843 exits last year make it very popular. 89th Least busiest station last year I believe. However despite the vast number of people that use it;)

It is still very useful for the pub.
 

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It has always been one of those uncertain myths as to which station the song was dreamt up on. Apparently the concert was at Widnes but many reckon the station was actually Runcorn and not any of the Widnes stations. Though I suppose Widnes needs all the help it can get for it's bid to become a tourist trap.
Maybe someone should write or e-mail a picture of Widnes (nee Widnes North) to Mr.Simon and see if he recognises it.

Don't know why but a Paul Simon concert in Widnes sounds ideal...
 

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Ha! Spat my tea out then!

I would support the closure of Ardwick. And propose the closure of Norton Bridge etc. Basically everywhere is sustained by a parliamentary service.

I would also build two extra platforms, well, a graded separated island on the west side of Wigan North Western and close Wallgate. Increased interchange and journey opportunities.

Related - I would close Warrington Bank Quay and Warrington Central... And open a new Warrington Interchange built with the high-level Liverpool - Manchester platforms in the same location as the low-level mainline platforms. Again, increased journey and interchange opportunities.

I would say the same about Newark, shame the crossing is in such poor location for the town so would never work.
 
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Close golf street, Barry links and balmossie between carnoustie and dundee. You can see golf street and Barry links all from carnoustie station, there is no car parks and very low passenger usage but keep monifeith open for more rail services.
 

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This may be controversial, but I'd like to see Sudbury & Harrow Road closed. There are too many small suburban stations on the congested two track Chiltern Main Line between Wembley and Denham and it isn't easy to give them all a meaningful service level in between the 100mph fast services. For this reason Sudbury & Harrow Road only gets a very limited peak-time only service and even these trains are not heavily used from the station. Sudbury Town tube station is nearby and the area is served by several bus routes so the hardship caused by closing the station would be minimal.
 

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This may be controversial, but I'd like to see Sudbury & Harrow Road closed. There are too many small suburban stations on the congested two track Chiltern Main Line between Wembley and Denham and it isn't easy to give them all a meaningful service level in between the 100mph fast services. For this reason Sudbury & Harrow Road only gets a very limited peak-time only service and even these trains are not heavily used from the station. Sudbury Town tube station is nearby and the area is served by several bus routes so the hardship caused by closing the station would be minimal.

Yup was just going to say this aand have said it before on here too. 12K passengers per year is a stupid amount to keep a stati0on open with only 5 in the morning and 4 in the afternoon or something..

They could then probably realign the track and get a better speed through there.

And its a proper dump too.
 

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All those 843 exits last year make it very popular. 89th Least busiest station last year I believe. However despite the vast number of people that use it;)

Usage statistics become a bit distorted down that end of the table. For instance Dorchester West was regularly in the bottom ten (until someone realized that they were mistakenly allocating all tickets to "Dorchester Stns" to Dorchester South).
 

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:( Stats for Berney Arms not accurate - Anglia Plus and Wherry Line rover holders will not be counted for example.
 

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I am always amazed at the frequency Swinderby, Rolleson, Fiskerton, Bleasby and Thurgarton get - considering how many passengers use them!
 

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Yup was just going to say this aand have said it before on here too. 12K passengers per year is a stupid amount to keep a stati0on open with only 5 in the morning and 4 in the afternoon or something..

They could then probably realign the track and get a better speed through there.

And its a proper dump too.

Sadly it has just had a lot of money spent on it. The up platform was rebuilt to compensate for the increase in cant following the EG3 line speed increase and the shelter has been enlarged and replaced as part of a Chiltern franchise commitment. What a wastle of money.
 

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:( Stats for Berney Arms not accurate - Anglia Plus and Wherry Line rover holders will not be counted for example.


A bit tongue in cheek my comment;) I expect there are many more people get off there to get back to their boat moored at the pub.

I also don't think any station should be closed as someone has already mentioned in relation to another station. How much does it cost to maintain the likes of Berney Arms.
 

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Basically everywhere is sustained by a parliamentary service.

That won't be a popular comment. Places like Denton have demand for a service but not the same service for which a parliamentary exists. Denton doesn't have many people wanting to go to Stalybridge but would have demand for a Manchester Victoria service, which is proposed in the Northern Hub.
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I'd suggest Navigation Road Metrolink stop. Build a new street double track running tram line between Altrincham and Timperley with a couple of stops in between and give both platforms over to heavy rail. That would then improve traffic flows (by the level crossings not being down so much), Metrolink flows (by not having a congested single track section) and heavy rail flows (by not having late running long freight trains holding up passenger services in the opposite direction.)
 

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That won't be a popular comment. Places like Denton have demand for a service but not the same service for which a parliamentary exists. Denton doesn't have many people wanting to go to Stalybridge but would have demand for a Manchester Victoria service, which is proposed in the Northern Hub.

That is a good point, if Brigg and Kirton Lynsay has a 2 hourly service and a decent connection at Retford with the ECML would they be better used? They are both bigger than Thurgarton which is deemed important enough to slow down many Lincoln - Nottingham users.

I lot of the parliamentary services have never really had the chance to gather useage.
 

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Sadly it has just had a lot of money spent on it. The up platform was rebuilt to compensate for the increase in cant following the EG3 line speed increase and the shelter has been enlarged and replaced as part of a Chiltern franchise commitment. What a wastle of money.

They were meant to do the shelter years ago. But yup - proper waste of money.
 

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When I first started about 10 years ago no one ever left the train at Ardwick in the morning now there are about 10 each time, does not sound much but considering only 3 or 4 trains a day stop there a day compared to places like Strines its not a bad percentage.

I used to use the use the service that stopped just after 6pm to get to Guide Bridge on a few Fridays when i worked at Universal Sqaure next door. I'm guessing the signalling would remain the same regardless of the station's presence and that mainainence cost must be very minimal so I reckon Ardwick should stay.
 

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Codsall and Bilbrook should be combined (I believe if a Eurostar stopped at Codsall, it's other end would be in Bilbrook). A station should be opened at Pendeford Avenue instead. This would spread out the stations that side of Wolverhampton giving a much needed service to Pendeford while still keeping the same timings.
 

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Close golf street, Barry links and balmossie between carnoustie and dundee. You can see golf street and Barry links all from carnoustie station, there is no car parks and very low passenger usage but keep monifeith open for more rail services.

True - I could see demand for Broughty Ferry, Monifieth and Carnoustie, but the other stations on that line are a waste of resources.
 

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Another I would plump for would be Dumpton park. Its really not far by Bus to Ramsgate and now the greyhound track and market have dissapeared its only local traffic now.
 

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The branch was closed specifically for Tramlink, wasn't it? Very much a replacement. It certainly doesn't do much to make your point for you.

My point is that Addiscombe tram stop (along with all the other tram stops on this route) is several blocks away from the former Addiscombe railway station, therefore I think it's fair to say that Addiscombe railway station is now closed.

The tramlink follows the old route towards Selsdon. If you'd caught a train to Coombe Road station when it was heavy rail, I presume you wouldn't have considered that you were on a train to Addiscombe would you ?
 

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Isn't Ardwick being kept open in case the area around the station is redeveloped soon? The idea is that it would be cheaper to keep open until this happens than to go through the cost of closing and then reopening it. Just an idea. One day it may once again serve a useful purpose.
 

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I think so, as is new clee. Hence why no trains stop there when it is dark.

Dunrobin Castle and Altnabreac (to take just two further examples) are also unlit, but I believe that Dunrobin Castle only closes outside the summer months due to the Castle itself closing to tourists, if you see what I mean. Altnabreac is supposedly one of the hardest stations in Britain to be noticed at in the dark, but is vaguely served all year round (it's a request stop). I have mentioned it several times on these sorts of threads!
 

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Wrexham Central....whats the point....100yard walk!

In my BR days I actually worked up a scheme to close the section south of Exchange/ General. Didn't really make sense.
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How much does maintaining the station itself cost?
Its basically a lump of concrete and a sign.

Until Health & Safety requires the paving/ edgeing/ whatevedr to be replaced.

In some cases there may also be the possibility of realising a capital asset.
 
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