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Snow related disruption (Jan 2013)

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Tomnick

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Reports coming in that Birmingham New St is gridlocked with London Midland trains stood minus traincrew. They'll be in for one hell of a delay minutes bill if that's correct....
There are a few TRUST incidents showing 'waiting traincrew' at New Street from earlier in yesterday afternoon, some of which amount to an hour or two. There's then a big fat 'LM traincrew issues' incident from early evening (mentioning congestion in the station) which is standing at quite a few more hours' delay!
 
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Fgw found another twitter downfall today whilst providing their snow info. They got sent to twitter jail.
Twitter jail for this unaware is a temporary ban on tweeting when you exceed a set number of tweets in a set period. I believes its 100 tweets in 1 hour or 1000 tweets in 24 hours.

That has happened to FGW before. They did have another account to use when they can't post on the main one any more.

The same happened to Southern......twice. Why they havent set-up a back-up account already ive no idea

More to the point - why Twitter don't have exemptions for businesses providing "public announcements" (and give them the same restrictions that thee and me have) is beyond me
 

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Same thing happened to ATW last night.

Secondly, does this make sense?...

Virgin Trains ‏@VirginTrains

All services from Birmingham New Street to London Euston today at 03 minutes past the hour have been cancelled. Travel earlier if you wish.


Presumably it does if there are other services that aren't 03 minutes past the hour?

Thirdly, on LM's info page there are loads of trains that "will be formed of 8 coaches instead of 4". That would be good news wouldn't it - less crowding? Don't see the need to mention it. I'm sure there's a reason though.
 

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Also Re: VT — Does "restrictions lifted" mean that 1st is declassified? Mainly so I can get an individual seat with power socket in case C01 & C02 are taken.
 

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Same thing happened to ATW last night.

Secondly, does this make sense?...

Virgin Trains ‏@VirginTrains

All services from Birmingham New Street to London Euston today at 03 minutes past the hour have been cancelled. Travel earlier if you wish.


Presumably it does if there are other services that aren't 03 minutes past the hour?
- It makes pefrect sense to me. The xx:03 trains have been cancelled, passengers need to catch other trains, which can be earlier than their booked train.

Thirdly, on LM's info page there are loads of trains that "will be formed of 8 coaches instead of 4". That would be good news wouldn't it - less crowding? Don't see the need to mention it. I'm sure there's a reason though.

It's probably programmed to report all stock changes. Short formation information is useful but the system is probably just set up to report everything. I expect these circumstances weren't in mind when they set it up.
 

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Also Re: VT — Does "restrictions lifted" mean that 1st is declassified? Mainly so I can get an individual seat with power socket in case C01 & C02 are taken.

No. Ticket restrictions have been lifted, but First Class has not been declassified.
 

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On the other hand I'm sure the TM would be more tan happy to sell you a weekend first upgrade.
 

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yesterday Brockenhurst at 1pm, both SWT & XC running about 45 mins late apart from Lymington branch on time.

Today 158 working Lymington branch
 

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is this to avoid issues with iced conductor rails? normally a 450 works weekends & bank holidays

remind me of the disruption caused by snow back in 2010, when the CIG's ran the service, there was an attempt to see whether a service could be run with no 1497, but abandoned due to iced rails
 

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My 390 at MAN arrived with two outer windows shattered by ice debris, even with restricted speeds. Apparently it happens every year, and the solution is to smash all the shattered glass out so it doesn't fly off passing through stations, and allow the unit to work the next diagram(s) with just the inner windows. The inners are "practically bullet-proof", but still have sticky-back plastic added, after the shattered outer "skin" is gone.

I can imagine that's why we're down to 2TPH from 3TPH today, with ⅓ of the fleet having yesterday's windows replaced, but it does give some nice extra recovery time to deal with the TSRs.
 

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Outer window of one of the 1st class coaches of the 17.50 BHM - EUS was smashed, still ran in service and table/seats next to the window were sealed off. Window also had plastic sheets stuck to it to prevent further damage.
 

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I wish somebody could confiscate that and give them a pacer or something. Such a waste of a regional express DMU.

you going to pay for all the driver/guard/fitter training plus spare parts/storage costs on the pacer then?

I wish people would do some research before posting rubbish but I suppose there is as much chance of that happening as there is a pacer on the Lymington branch.
 

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I am well aware of the reasons behind it but that doesn't stop it being a waste of such a unit whilst fgw are forced to use 150s on much much longer distance routes due to a lack of 158s.

Just a shame, that's all. You can't honestly think its the right type of train for that service? It's regrettable that practicality reasons force the use of such a train on this line.
 
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Yesterday I noticed a 159 (could have been more then one) in and out of Portsmouth harbour, I know swt ran a special timetable, but what was the reason for this choice of traction and what service was it operating please
 

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Most likely Southampton to Portsmouth, when SWT runs a snow timetable they often put a 158 or 159 on the Solent stopper.
 

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More to the point - why Twitter don't have exemptions for businesses providing "public announcements" (and give them the same restrictions that thee and me have) is beyond me

LM have a disruption back up account if their main account goes to Twitter Jail
 

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didn't actually see it, but as the lymington branch train has 4 coaches today, assume 450
 

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Was traveling to Guildford on the fast Waterloo only delayed by a few mins luckily! Not sure what will happen if the points ice up though.
 

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I have seen a few employees who tweet (not on the public accounts I think, on their own personal accounts) and were saying that they are working with a contact at Twitter to get the limit removed :P

London Midland have done this already, since then, they have not been put into Jail. Once, FGW had their main twitter account, plus the two back ups, so Ollie had to use his personal account to reply to tweets lol
 

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South West Trains have annouced they are running their Snow Timetable again on Monday

Just seen a 9 car go past on the 14:26 from Exeter, never see that happen during normal weather conditions. Obviously the irony is that we have no snow whatsoever here, but of course it gets worse the further East you go...
 

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I'd guess that for a company to get their tweet limit removed costs money...
 

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I'd guess that for a company to get their tweet limit removed costs money...

Nope you just need to convice the you have a legitimate reason to generte a very large number of steets. It is an anti spam measure.
 

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Yesterday I noticed a 159 (could have been more then one) in and out of Portsmouth harbour, I know swt ran a special timetable, but what was the reason for this choice of traction and what service was it operating please

159011 worked 2E66 1233PMH-SOU, I would assume it was working one of the diagrams on that route.
 

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Return journey was 1A71 Manchester Piccadilly - Euston. 66 minutes late because of Northampton diversion and congestion due to a cracked rail.

Seemed very well organised at Piccadilly. Manual announcements were on for platforms as they were changing all the time.

Also, all of the replacement buses were being announced as 'The Bus standing at Station Approach Road is the XX.XX to Z calling at A, B and C' (replaced with stations)

Engineering works on the Metrolink resulted in the shortest rail replacement bus I've ever been on. Double decker Stagecoach from Piccadilly Gardens to Piccadilly station taking 2 minutes. I was the only passenger and the driver seemed pretty happy to see someone.

Does Metrolink have the same obligation as TOC's to provide buses?
 

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Do TOCs even have obligations to run buses? One time I saw a closure of the East London Line (from Dalston Junction to Surrey Quays or something like that) and for a large section of the route there was no replacement bus service, no details of tickets being accepted for travel on local buses and no local rail routes either!
 

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Do TOCs even have obligations to run buses? One time I saw a closure of the East London Line (from Dalston Junction to Surrey Quays or something like that) and for a large section of the route there was no replacement bus service, no details of tickets being accepted for travel on local buses and no local rail routes either!

I was actually wondering about this earlier this evening. As I was waiting for my train at Clapham Junction, the announcement came on about SWT running a Snow Timetable for Monday and that there would be no replacement bus for stations not served.
 
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