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CC 72100

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Pictures show Suarez seeming to bite Ivanovic, as he did in his Ajax days (receiving a 7 game ban). I'm sorry, but how can people still defend him as being a victim of the media when he continues to behave in such a way that all he does is make his negative reputation bigger?
 

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Maybe you should get Fergie to manage Scotland, you know, with Fergie time and all the other associated "bonuses", you might actually beat someone again. :lol:

Tried it in 1986 after Jock Stein died, in Mexico if I remember correctly.

It's not the manager it's the lack of a Dalglish,Souness or Hansen :p
 
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Pictures show Suarez seeming to bite Ivanovic, as he did in his Ajax days (receiving a 7 game ban). I'm sorry, but how can people still defend him as being a victim of the media when he continues to behave in such a way that all he does is make his negative reputation bigger?

Thats his player of the year chance gone. Oh my hes scored in the 7th minute of added on time.
 

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Thats his player of the year chance gone. Oh my hes scored in the 7th minute of added on time.

Shouldn't have even been on the pitch. Saddens me seeing this. This one will run and run... and I have zero sympathy for Suarez if it does and he suffers as a result.
 

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The sad demise of the football fortunes of Stockport County still continues. Since the start of the 21st century, they have plummeted downwards from the Championship to what next season will offer in the Conference North.

Some bad news come out of Kidderminster v Stockport match yesterday :(.

Football fan charged after a player was punched when crowd trouble erupted during Stockport's last game of the season at Kidderminster

A football fan has been charged with common assault after a player was punched during a pitch invasion at Stockport County's match with Kidderminster Harriers.

Police say the man, who is in his 20s and was among visiting Stockport supporters, was arrested, charged and bailed following the incident.

He is due to appear at Kidderminster Magistrates Court on May 9, West Mercia Police said.

A statement posted on the constabulary's website added that the man - who has not been named - is banned from attending football matches in the mean time.

The match - which saw Stockport County relegated from the Blue Square Bet Conference after losing 4-0 - had to be suspended for around half an hour after some Hatters fans climbed over a fence and on to the pitch at the Aggborough ground after County went 1-0 down.

Kidderminster player Lee Vaughan was apparently punched during the melee before police and stewards managed to restore order.

West Mercia Police are working with officers from Greater Manchester Police to try and identify fans involved in the trouble.

Referee Michael Bull took the players from the field and they only returned 30 minutes later once order had been restored.

More than 1,500 away fans had travelled to the Aggborough Stadium to watch a game that Stockport had to win to have a chance of beating relegation from the Blue Square Conference.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ews/football-fan-charged-after-player-2949252

^^ More about it on that link too.
 

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Apparently if you offer Luis Suarez a last minute equaliser, he'll bite your arm off for it!
 

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Pictures show Suarez seeming to bite Ivanovic, as he did in his Ajax days (receiving a 7 game ban). I'm sorry, but how can people still defend him as being a victim of the media when he continues to behave in such a way that all he does is make his negative reputation bigger?

Because Liverpool fans, admittedly like a lot of the other big boys, are never wrong :roll:

Apparently if you offer Luis Suarez a last minute equaliser, he'll bite your arm off for it!

:lol:
 

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OK, not all of them, but it's a steoretype of modern football - one that doesn't just afflict Liverpool, although Suarez certainly hasn't helped. Most of the clubs at the top end of the pyramid fall "foul" of this; I would suggest that, among the top few in the Prem, Tottenham and Everton are the only exceptions.
 

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Because Liverpool fans, admittedly like a lot of the other big boys, are never wrong :roll:



:lol:

I have to disagree with you here. I think there is/will be widespread condemnation of Mr Sauarez's actions today, my point was that this serves as further proof that he has this bad reputation because he deserves it! In the past other people have suggested that he is just a favourite media target and not actually that bad- perhaps - but today just shows that you don't end up being vilified by the media for no reason. I mean, why would you even do that?
 

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The sad demise of the football fortunes of Stockport County still continues. Since the start of the 21st century, they have plummeted downwards from the Championship to what next season will offer in the Conference North.

Being a Portsmouth fan I really do feel sorry for Stockport. They've only finished in the top half of a league twice this century despite the relegations.

Season League
2012/2013 Blue Square (Conference) Premier 21st(R) 50pts
2011/2012 Blue Square (Conference) Premier 16th/ 46 51pts
2010/2011 npower League Two 24th/24(R) 41pts
2009/2010 Coca-Cola League One 24th/24(R) 25pts
2008/2009 Coca-Cola League One 18th/24 50pts
2007/2008 Coca-Cola League Two 4th*/24(P) 82pts
2006/2007 Coca-Cola League Two 8th/24 71pts
2005/2006 Coca Cola League Two 22nd/24 52pts
2004/2005 Coca-Cola League One 24th/24(R) 26pts
2003/2004 Nationwide League Division Two 19th/24 52pts
2002/2003 Nationwide League Division Two 14th/24 55pts
2001/2002 Nationwide League Division One 24th/24(R) 26pts
2000/2001 Nationwide League Division One 19th/24 51pts
 

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With regards to Suarez...

The act of biting another player is not only assault but is very dangerous, he's gone too far now and there should be discussions as to whether he can continue to play the game anymore. This is his second biting incident in his career, once is bad enough. Lengthy bans have not seemed to work. We cannot have players like this playing at the top level, he's a great player but can he really be trusted anymore? In parks football he'd be banned for months, possibly given a life ban for this.
 

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With regards to Suarez...

The act of biting another player is not only assault but is very dangerous, he's gone too far now and there should be discussions as to whether he can continue to play the game anymore. This is his second biting incident in his career, once is bad enough. Lengthy bans have not seemed to work. We cannot have players like this playing at the top level, he's a great player but can he really be trusted anymore? In parks football he'd be banned for months, possibly given a life ban for this.

No, he can't, but we all know how this will go.

Even if Liverpool sack him, there will be other mugs who will employ him because of his ability. Results are all that matters these days, so he will continue to stick two fingers up at the authorities.
 

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All the TV news of this Suarez incident showed Ivanovic rolling up his shirt sleeve to show the referee the mark on his arm. A bite mark would be very hard to confuse with any other football injury, so what has the referee got to say about the matter ?
 

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Was he punished for hitting Gonzalo Jara last month? I know FIFA said they were investigating it.

Nothing.

They said that they would only investigate if the referee mentions anything in the report.

Given that he was not even booked, maybe the referee's attention was elsewhere during the incident.

I don't understand this logic really. If the referee sees an incident then appropriate actions would have been taken anyway (supposedly). Retrospective punishment is needed most in situations where the referee does not witness an incident, in which case he would not be mentioning it in the report.
 

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I wonder if the grounds at North Ferriby United, Hednesford Town, AFC Fylde (if any of them go up) are adequate for the 4 figure attendances when Stockport County visit.
 

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I wonder if the grounds at North Ferriby United, Hednesford Town, AFC Fylde (if any of them go up) are adequate for the 4 figure attendances when Stockport County visit.

North Ferriby's ground holds 2500 ish, maybe more and with crowds of 200 ish, should cope.

Hednesford's ground holds 6000 and they have Football League ground grading and played in the Conference as late as 2001.

AFC Fylde's ground probably holds around 2000 but they probably need a further 250 seats.


However NFU and AFC Fylde will need to increase their capacity to 3,000 (with potential for 4000) or face relegation after a year, the appropriate ground-grading is located here... http://www.thefa.com/Leagues/Nation...Leagues/Ground grading/2012/grade-b-2012.ashx

And before anyone jumps in, I'm not the only one who disagrees with ground-grading on the basis it is way to strict. Why the hell do clubs need capacity of 3,000 at Step 2 when most sides don't get 500 at that level :rolleyes: or need a capacity of 1,000 at Step 5 when most sides get crowds of 100 :rolleyes:
 

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North Ferriby's ground holds 1500 ish, maybe more and with crowds of 200 ish, should cope.

Hednesford's ground holds 6000 and they have Football League ground grading and played in the Conference as late as 2001.

AFC Fylde's ground probably holds nearly 2000 too but they probably need a further 250 seats.


However NFU and AFC Fylde will need to increase their capacity to 3,000 or face relegation after a year, the appropriate ground-grading is located here... http://www.thefa.com/Leagues/Nation...Leagues/Ground grading/2012/grade-b-2012.ashx

Hednesford Town's ground capacity is 6,500 ....of which 1,025 are seated.

North Ferriby United's ground capacity is 2,700 at present, so not much to add really.


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FC United of Manchester still have their official home ground of Gigg Lane, Bury. the home of Bury FC. until their new 5,000 capacity stadium in Broadhurst Park, North Manchester is built.

Does anyone have any news with regard to the viability of Bury FC at present ?
 
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bb21:1433963 said:

Reading through this and the rules on ground gradient reminds me of a question that I kept wanting to ask: What is the actual gradient of Barnet's Underhill stadium?

I remember reading somewhere that they were in breach of FL rules but cannot seem to find a straight answer for it.

I believe it was not suitable for the football league but because the ground grading system came in after they was promoted Barnet was given special dispensation but was told they will either need to upgrade Underhill or get a new stadium if they ever got relegated and won promotion back to the league, but since they will be playing at The Hive next season (aka their training ground) the ground grading of Underhill doesn't matter much now
 

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If the referee sees an incident then appropriate actions would have been taken anyway (supposedly). Retrospective punishment is needed most in situations where the referee does not witness an incident, in which case he would not be mentioning it in the report.

An interesting observation in the Suarez case is that he had openly admitted his guilt in the matter in his social network apology to Ivanovic. Can the FA use that publically-stated admission of guilt when (and if) they choose to review the matter ?
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Even if Liverpool sack him, there will be other mugs who will employ him because of his ability. Results are all that matters these days, so he will continue to stick two fingers up at the authorities.

Manchester City resolved the problem of their very own enfant terrible by transferring him back to a club in Italy.

Do you think there will be any European clubs who would be willing to bid "silly money" to sign Suarez ? If so, Liverpool will resolve the problem that way, as I cannot see any British club now willing to take on a player with so much "baggage" of FA sanctions and a very questionable mind-set and temperament.
 

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Hednesford Town's ground capacity is 6,500 ....of which 1,025 are seated.

North Ferriby United's ground capacity is 2,700 at present, so not much to add really.


--- old post above --- --- new post below ---


FC United of Manchester still have their official home ground of Gigg Lane, Bury. the home of Bury FC. until their new 5,000 capacity stadium in Broadhurst Park, North Manchester is built.

Does anyone have any news with regard to the viability of Bury FC at present ?

Having been to North Ferriby's ground, I wouldn't want to be in there with a crowd of 2700! I think it holds 2,000 maximum, Buxton have a far bigger ground and can only safely hold 3,000.
 

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An interesting observation in the Suarez case is that he had openly admitted his guilt in the matter in his social network apology to Ivanovic. Can the FA use that publically-stated admission of guilt when (and if) they choose to review the matter ?

My memory may be failing me but I think they can. I remember reading somewhere that the FA appear to be taking the stance that if a referee has taken action with regard to an incident then they cannot do any more, but if the referee has not seen an incident then retrospective punishment can be given.

I could be wrong though.

Manchester City resolved the problem of their very own enfant terrible by transferring him back to a club in Italy.

Do you think there will be any European clubs who would be willing to bid "silly money" to sign Suarez ? If so, Liverpool will resolve the problem that way, as I cannot see any British club now willing to take on a player with so much "baggage" of FA sanctions and a very questionable mind-set and temperament.

Probably, however I am more thinking that some club down at the bottom end of the table would probably be happy to take a punt on him in exchange for their Premiership survival. The potential reward is just too great to ignore for most clubs.
 

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My memory may be failing me but I think they can. I remember reading somewhere that the FA appear to be taking the stance that if a referee has taken action with regard to an incident then they cannot do any more, but if the referee has not seen an incident then retrospective punishment can be given.

I could be wrong though.

I heard on the radio a few weeks ago that some referees wait until after MOTD to see whether the 'pundits' believe if the incident was dealt with or not before submitting a report to the FA (or in other words the referee saw it, wasn't sure how to deal with it properly and saw how much 'outrage' has been caused and then submit a report saying I didn't see the incident at all, please can you sort it out for me :D )
 

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Would there be any difference between this - common assault or whatever the technical term might be - and a deliberately dangerous tackle? Only one has the potential to end another player's career (leaving aside the danger of rabies or the like!). I am in no way trying to defend Suarez's behaviour, but what is there in it to justify the "outrage" that there isn't in other vicious foul play?
 

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Come on Don't let me down Villa


I'd rather we(QPR) we're relegated today then whem i'm there saturday :cry:

I wouldn't bank on that. It'd be nice but I'm aiming low with a minimal hit on goal difference. A point would feel like three and it doesn't help that Man Utd are good at scoring late goals
 

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In all the excitement of yesterday I forgot to post...
The Celtic Football Club, SPL Champions season 2012/13
Interesting times to come with the end of the season, who stays or goes, being honest expecting 'moves' for Hooper and Wanyama, hope not, but reality's telling me they may be departing, for the correct price only though.
Oh Yeah and 'Freddie Mercury's secret love child' Suarez is a disgrace (and the FA should throw the book at him) Racist and part time cannibal indeed...shocking
 

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