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Train liveries: When Paint + Rail = Epic Fail
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nathanclass323
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I never like Raspberry Ripple personally... Certainly didn't work here on 31414. Regional Railways was never my choice as well. Though I can only talk about that from experience with preserved trains and photos, being born after privatisation had started.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33106/6277242111/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33106/6277242111/
Amazed no-one's mentioned the "Darling of NXEA's fleet" - 321446.
Badly vinyled in "one" livery that didn't quite cover the fGE paintwork, then had its rainbow stripes covered up in completely the wrong shade when the "one" brand was thankfully retired.
The addition of NX white stripes along the side, along with a new valance in the wrong colour did nothing to help its appearance..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50750205@N07/6266577735/ (Not my photo)
Badly vinyled in "one" livery that didn't quite cover the fGE paintwork, then had its rainbow stripes covered up in completely the wrong shade when the "one" brand was thankfully retired.
The addition of NX white stripes along the side, along with a new valance in the wrong colour did nothing to help its appearance..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50750205@N07/6266577735/ (Not my photo)
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Eagle
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XC's not far off (it's got the chocolate and the strawberry, but silver instead of the vanilla).
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Jesus, that really is appalling!
I have to second that. Its appalling. I have to say I like FGW fag packet, mind I dont like the HP power cars they arent the best and they must be a pig to keep clean.
fairysdad
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I can never see what all the fuss is about over it - there are worse ones there (as this thread has proven). I wonder maybe if the untoward hatred of it is a lot down to the bad choice of name... (which was stupid).
Another possibly controversial comment - I don't like the blue and yellow Intercity livery (though the black and white with the red stripe is alright). I also think that when you have a dual-ended loco with wrap-around yellow frontages, it looks a bit silly when pulling coaches (I think a livery should go down the whole side of a train... that's not really a carp livery though)
fgwrich
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I'm with you on that. I know the 'fag packet' livery was a first group cover up of the original Merlin livery (on the HSTs) but when you had a complete rake it didn't half look smart, especially along the Dawlish sea wall. Whereas the 'Merlin' livery was nice, but give those white power car ends a chance to get dirty and avoid the washer for a week and it just didn't look so smart.
I think one of the reasons why the 'ONE' brand was so bad was the variation in it. Looking at a phot of a rake of Mk3s and a 90 that I took in Norwich a few years back seems to show the variation in the blue - from the metallic silver colour to the drab shade of blue they later used. And then you had the 'Refresher' stripe removal scheme carried out by Nat Ex which just literally ruined a already rather bad livery. Heck, even graffiti improved it better than NX did with their 'just get rid of those stripes by any means possible - blue paint / black paint / odds and sods of vinyl'. I think however it would have just about worked if 'ONE' kept the branding to the routes - ie Orange was Stansted, Pink I think may have meant to have covered the old FGE routes, Turquoise for the ex Anglia routes but they didn't, and so it just looked messy.
SprinterMan
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ONE rainbow livery alway reminded me of the gay pride flag tbh, which isn't a bad thing, just a bit of a random thing to paint on the side of a train :P
I liked the ONE colour scheme very much, and even though the name was confusing it was at least memorable.
170270 is still running around in that livery, although it doesn't look quite as bad as 321446 did. It has an Anglia Railways green roof, dark ONE bodysides, light ONE coverings on the rainbow stripes, NXEA white stripe with GA branding, and on one side there appears to be lots of little bits of white tape over what I assume is corrosion damage.
You are correct. Here is the photo where the 90 is in the old colours and the carriages are in the new colours:
Then we have the weird look Orange Stansted Express livery:
The way they removed the rainbow stripes was really stupid. They covered them up with the wrong colour on 321446 and 170270, on the Mark 3 coaches some had all the rainbow stripes taken off leaving the black underneath (which actually looks ok), some had all the stripes except the blue one taken off (which just looks stupid) and some had all of the stripes and the black background covered up by more blue (which also just looks stupid).
156416 has had the paint that was slapped over the vinyls grandually worn away and now the rainbow stripes are pretty visible again, although this is nothing compared to a picture of a DVT I took at Norwich in 2011:
I mean come on NXEA, that is just embarassing.
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Central trains green especially on the 150s
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Aww, I was sad to see the Central livery disappear, was much more colourful and welcoming than EMT orange and blue.
Mind you, I'm weird enough to miss the entire Central franchise. Not least because few people knew you could sit in First Class on the ex-MML 170s between Cardiff and Nottingham.
317666
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Guess I'm the only person who actually liked ONE livery then!
Personally I detest the polar bear livery seen on the 317/6s and some of the 321s. Well, it looks okay with the NXEA dark blue doors but with GA red doors it looks pretty hideous in my eyes. Especially on the 315s, if you look on the side of the train underneath where the pantograph is located, it looks like oil or something has leaked down the bodyside. The ONE livery 315s have this too but as the livery isn't white it isn't nearly as noticeable...
Personally I detest the polar bear livery seen on the 317/6s and some of the 321s. Well, it looks okay with the NXEA dark blue doors but with GA red doors it looks pretty hideous in my eyes. Especially on the 315s, if you look on the side of the train underneath where the pantograph is located, it looks like oil or something has leaked down the bodyside. The ONE livery 315s have this too but as the livery isn't white it isn't nearly as noticeable...
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The awful Intalink livery. Wagn started with a really slick livery (but awful logo) and then it all went downhill: Interlink, all-over, dirty white and all-over purple.
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/steam60163/6633773093/
I agree with previous posts that too often liveries are designed for newer stock without the designers thinking how it will look on new stock.
Thameslink has always been a failure. The revised (more white) NSE livery suited the 319/1, more so than dark grey of 319/0. Then it went downhill: pre-privatisation graffiti livery with silhouettes of St Paul's; the awful dark blue with diagonal stripe; Go-Ahead's silver and blue was ok but nothing special, then the ghastly (and usually dirty) First livery. I'll admit Southern's scheme works on the 319s.
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/steam60163/6633773093/
I agree with previous posts that too often liveries are designed for newer stock without the designers thinking how it will look on new stock.
Thameslink has always been a failure. The revised (more white) NSE livery suited the 319/1, more so than dark grey of 319/0. Then it went downhill: pre-privatisation graffiti livery with silhouettes of St Paul's; the awful dark blue with diagonal stripe; Go-Ahead's silver and blue was ok but nothing special, then the ghastly (and usually dirty) First livery. I'll admit Southern's scheme works on the 319s.
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Not forgetting the 'Transforming Thameslink' livery!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/64033965@N03/6704259135
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I forgot about that one. Quite liked it!
nathanclass323
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Network Southeast didn't work at all on the 1992 Underground Stock!
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Did anyone like this one?
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Did anyone like this one?
Manchester77
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Wasn't really NSE livery though it used the the colours but in a different way rpto the rest of the network. I'd like to have seen how the standard NSE livery fitted on a 482
starrymarkb
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Intalink is the public transport branding of Herts Council, I don't think WAGN can be blamed beyond allowing the council to design the livery...
317666
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Despite the fact I already said that I liked it
That'll teach me to read more carefully
I was also a fan of WAGN's many liveries including Intalink. One livery I really don't like is the GMPTE livery that was on some of the 323s, 142s and 150s:
Manchester77
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Briefly mentioned on the first page but the Connex livery.
Southern slam-door unit at Coulsdon South by bowroaduk, on Flickr
Southern slam-door unit at Coulsdon South by bowroaduk, on Flickr
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One livery I really don't like is the GMPTE livery that was on some of the 323s, 142s and 150s:
I quite liked this, it's simplicity meant it worked well on both newer stock and on 'heritage' units:
I'd never seen that 'Intalink' livery before- it's not great but the name is worse! On a 313 it has hints of the pre-refurbishment Merseyrail colours.
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