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The Railway: First Great Western on Channel 5

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Even better I think I spotted (will watch the backup recording) in the title sequence a HST approaching the camera on what looked like the wrong line and tail lights on, guess its a piece of film run backwards to suit the director? As I said prepared to be proved wrong!
 
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The continuity is appalling - one minute a packed train, the next an empty train pulling out - one minute an Adelante, the next on board a High Speed Train.
 

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Was Kim in the documentary on BBC2 a while ago

That 8.45pm Saturday to Swansea is hell

What is happening regarding the Franchise extension?
 

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Seems to be getting a little better. But the start was terrible.

Trains going backwards, different trains being shown. Terrible continuity, although as I say it has definitely seemed to get a little better in the second 15 minutes!

And now they've said that FGW still use Pacers...
 
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There should be BTP officers on the train, Jody was vulnerable

3 or 4 BTP on duty for all South Wales at that time of the night, I believe. All stations between Cardiff ans Swansea unmanned after 2200 (thanks Arriva).
 

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Jody was probably safer than usual with a film crew accompanying her than on a normal Saturday.

True! At least there would be something to produce in court! It looked like a quiet one, anyway ;);)
 

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Why didn't FGW tell everyone that the signal problems at Swindon were due to vandalism and not their fault?
 

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I only watch online. With adblockers, precisely because of the amount of advertising. No TV and no live broadcasts. That saves me £145.50 a year.

Is it not the case that if you have a broadband connection and thus the capability to watch TV as it's being broadcast, you also by law require a TV Licence? I was under the impression it was. :|
 

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Hmm, poor continuity indeed, but this sort of thing shows up easily with railways, and I somehow doubt the ordinary viewer will notice, or care, thus so far I'm pretty pleased with it.
 

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Hmm, poor continuity indeed, but this sort of thing shows up easily with railways, and I somehow doubt the ordinary viewer will notice, or care, thus so far I'm pretty pleased with it.

Tis true the average joe couldn't care less about if an HST has 1 or 2 power cars, neither would I have a few years ago. It's just one of those things that bugs you when you know better lol
 

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Is it not the case that if you have a broadband connection and thus the capability to watch TV as it's being broadcast, you also by law require a TV Licence? I was under the impression it was. :|

For live tv either being streamed online or through other means such as Freeview USB stick, you need a licence. However if you use catch up services only such as BBC iPlayer or Demand 5, you don't need a tv licence.
 

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For live tv either being streamed online or through other means such as Freeview USB stick, you need a licence. However if you use catch up services only such as BBC iPlayer or Demand 5, you don't need a tv licence.

Indeed. From http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/technology--devices-and-online-top8/

If you only watch catch-up services online, then you don’t need a licence. For example, you don’t need one to use BBC iPlayer, or ITV player, to catch up on programmes after they have been shown on TV.
 

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They do. Commonly found on the branchlines of Devon.

I stand corrected then! I'm guessing they were just removed from a certain line which is what the farewell tour was for.


Overall view of the show was relatively poor. I think the BBC had it pretty much spot on. One week focus on revenue, one week focus on weekend travellers/engineering works etc.

There wasn't any real flow to it I didn't feel. There multiple times the train's had tail lights on in the direction of travel, or headlights but they were going backwards. Even the average person would notice that surely!?
 

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Why were customers not allowed to sit on the (prepared) train just because the traincrew were missing?
 

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The recent BBC series was probably better overall, but then you'd expect that to an extent, this is roughly what I'd expect from a C5 fly-on-the-wall documentary.
 

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I was relieved that it didn't turn into an Eddie Stobart advertorial, yet I found they were cramming in too much into very little time.

However, the documentary makers may have been told what Channel 5's audience remit is, so condensed it into bite size parts for the average viewer to understand.

The most interesting parts I found were Jody's shift on the 2045 to Swansea which made me think about those guards/train managers who work alone with the passengers on late night services and Dave the RPI at Windsor and Eton Central, although more could have been explained about how the youths resolved their ticketing issue without being PF'ed.
 
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Why were customers not allowed to sit on the (prepared) train just because the traincrew were missing?

I suppose it was possible that due to severe disruption and given the set was going to sit there for some time they may have considered using that set for a different late running service instead of waiting for the late arrival to form it. Then use the late incomer for the original service?
 

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Why were customers not allowed to sit on the (prepared) train just because the traincrew were missing?

Safety reasons primarily, not to mention reserved seats and the like.

The papers would have a field day if something happened with no train crew present

EDIT: Also what was stated above
 

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Why were customers not allowed to sit on the (prepared) train just because the traincrew were missing?

Nobody to really supervise them perhaps and if there is an emergency and something happens you can bet some customers will be going to claims r us and the press etc saying there were no staff onboard train etc etc.

A s for the FGW pacer farewell tour that was for the class 142's which were going back to Northern. FGW do still have a very small fleet of class 143's operating local routes from Exeter St Davids such as to Barnstaple.
 
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