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Alan1310

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Just a quicky has anybody on here got experience of traveling long distance on trains and got any tips. My family and my brothers family will be traveling from Cambridge to milngavie on the 24/10/13 we will be going via east coast both dogs are small mine is a border terrier and my brother has a mop sorry a Lhasa apso any advice or tips would be great
 
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Keep them in a cage or something! Nothing worse than people letting them all over the carriage!

No need for a cage. That'll take up too muvh room. As long as they are well behaved and kept on a leash there's no problem. Don't allow them on the seats.

It's a fairly long journey, so I'd suggest you factor in 'toilet breaks' at interchange stations (outside the station!), and/or break the journey en route.
 

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If they're quiet and not prone to barking as such, most TOCs would allow them, but I believe that like buses, on trains its up to the guard's discretion, but I don't see a problem.
 

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The main issue I find with those travelling with dogs is their tendency to allow them to sit straddling the aisle. Whilst I have no problem with dogs myself, I always think it breathtakingly inconsidrate to expect others moving around the train to have to leap over sometimes very large animals, particularly considering they can pose a serious problem problem for a good few people. Many owners will make absolutely no effort whatsoever to shift their dogs when people need to pass, just arrogantly ignoring the situation as if the animal isn't there. They can also pose a substantial trip hazard, and there is always a risk of the dog being stood on and suffering an injury itself. Presumably the owner would look to blame the poor sod having to negotiate the obsruction in such a situation, rather than acccept that they failed to supervise their pet properly?! Anyhow, my advice would be to book a table, and have the dogs lie beneath it where they are out of the way of others. I'd also ensure you have a contingency in the way of some food and water, just in case something goes wrong and you end up stranded in the middle of nowhere for half the day - unlikely of course, but you just never know!
 
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Isn't there's rule about a maximum of two dogs per passenger?

NRCoC said:
Animals

7. You may take up to two dogs or other small domestic animals free of charge with you
into the passenger accommodation of a train provided that they can be accommodated on
the train service on which you are travelling. Animals, with the exception of blind or deaf
persons’ assistance dogs, may not be taken into buffet or restaurant cars. Animals are not
generally allowed in sleeper accommodation; however dogs may be conveyed in sleeper
cabins with the permission of the Train Company. You should apply for such permission at
least 48 hours before you travel.

8. Animals other than a dog must be conveyed in a fully enclosed basket or pet carrier
designed for this purpose with dimensions not exceeding 85 x 60 x 60 cm. Baskets and
pet carriers must be large enough to allow the animal to stand and lie down in comfort.
Animals which are too large for a basket or pet carrier with dimensions 85 x 60 x 60 cm
may not be conveyed by train.

9. More than two domestic animals per passenger may be conveyed at the discretion
of the Train Company, and may be charged for. Each train company is responsible for
setting the charges that apply to animals conveyed in these circumstances; however, it
will not exceed half the adult single fare for the journey or part of the journey over which
the animal(s) are being conveyed by that Train Company. Train Companies will provide
information about their policies covering the carriage of additional animals via their website
and enquiry offices, or on request or from the Ticket Seller before you buy your ticket.

10. The Train Company may require that such animals are conveyed in a train’s luggage
van, if one is available. In such cases, a dog should be muzzled and its lead securely
fastened as directed by Train Company staff. Baskets and pet carriers must be secure.
Dogs and any baskets or pet carriers must be clearly labelled with your name, address and
destination station. Staff may not hand over animals until you have proved ownership.

11. Dogs must be kept on a lead throughout your journey, including any part of station
property; other animals must not be taken out of their baskets or pet carriers. If your dog or
other animal causes a nuisance or inconvenience to other passengers you may be asked to
remove it from a train or railway premises by the Train Company or Rail Service Company staff.

12. In no case will livestock or non-domestic animals be conveyed.

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/static/documents/content/NRCOC.pdf
 

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Just a quicky has anybody on here got experience of traveling long distance on trains and got any tips. My family and my brothers family will be traveling from Cambridge to milngavie on the 24/10/13 we will be going via east coast both dogs are small mine is a border terrier and my brother has a mop sorry a Lhasa apso any advice or tips would be great

Make sure they've had their walks beforehand, done their business and try to factor in a break of some sort during the journey (eg: if you have to change trains then if possible make the break a longer one so you take fido* and gnasher* for a walk and pee)

Might also be useful to take a bowl and a bottle of water along if the dogs get hot. I also take treats (or in my dog's case a tennis ball) to praise good behaviour, eg: lying down etc.

Other than that the usual considerate behaviour one would hope from other travellers; though this applies equally to humans.

Generally I find dogs no problem, but then again most dog problems are the fault of the human handling them.

One posted suggested putting them in a cage but after seeing the behaviour of some humans on trains (a certain trip from York to Newcastle a few years back comes to mind)...

t.

Ian

* sorry don't know your dogs' names :)
 

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Keep them in a cage or something! Nothing worse than people letting them all over the carriage!

It's absolutely horrifying that some people would advocate caging animals such as dogs on potentially long rail journeys.


Generally I find dogs no problem, but then again most dog problems are the fault of the human handling them.

Couldn't put it better myself.
 
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There both very well behaved well trained dogs both are used to long car journeys so am hoping this should be fine for them cheers for all the help guys much appreciated
Am I wrong in thinking about asking the train manager if they can have a wee walk up and down the train or is that being a bit cheeky
 

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It's absolutely horrifying that some people would advocate caging animals such as dogs on potentially long rail journeys.

As with letting them loose to climb over passengers, luggage, tables and sit there and do nothing. Not that I am accusing the OP of doing any of this and I'm sure his dogs are lovely dogs, but dogs IMO are not the nicest things to have running around near people. Obviously have it on a lead when changing to let it stretch its legs.
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Am I wrong in thinking about asking the train manager if they can have a wee walk up and down the train or is that being a bit cheeky

It's probably to his/her discretion, but bear in mind other passengers...
 

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Am I wrong in thinking about asking the train manager if they can have a wee walk up and down the train or is that being a bit cheeky

Provided that they don't go into the restaurant car, the train isn't busy, and you haven't got some sort of evil, canine hating Train Manager, then it should be fine. I'd imagine that the dogs might like it as well, seeing all those new faces.
 

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Anyhow, my advice would be to book a table, and have the dogs lie beneath it where they are out of the way of others. I'd also ensure you have a contingency in the way of some food and water, just in case something goes wrong and you end up stranded in the middle of nowhere for half the day - unlikely of course, but you just never know!

I have done it London to Inverness.
Easy on both food and water and they should be fine if you follow the above advice but try for a table near a door so you and the hounds can pop out to a lampost if need be and when ever there is few minutes stop at a station.
Oh and keep them off the seats of course
 

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As with letting them loose to climb over passengers, luggage, tables and sit there and do nothing. Not that I am accusing the OP of doing any of this and I'm sure his dogs are lovely dogs, but dogs IMO are not the nicest things to have running around near people. Obviously have it on a lead when changing to let it stretch its legs.

Yet the NRCoC instruct passengers that dogs must be kept on a lead at all times, this provision should be more than adequate to prevent the animal causing any mischief. I have yet to witness a single incident where a dog has caused any kind if distress or inconvience to passengers, as for the passengers themselves I will remain silent on that thought...
 
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Yes keeping on a lead is fine, I'm more on about letting a dog loose which I have witnessed twice both on Virgin. I know I didn't really make that clear in both my initial postings.
 

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Don't let them wee or poo on the platform, including up lampposts. That's asking for a fine (it damages the paintwork), same as if a human did it. As it's a long trip, plan a change of train in somewhere to go off the railway briefly so they can have a break. You might enjoy it as well!
 

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Dont do what someone did at York, they let their dog run free at the station, and it jumped onto the track. The owner then jumped down onto the track. Cue much shouting from staff on the station, and a guard who was well off her patch.
 
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