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Barnes to Redhill season ticket

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Hi. I am looking for some confirmation re the above commute - I hope you guys can help.

I will soon be commuting from Barnes to Redhill and can only find a point to point ticket, however if I reverse the journey I get offered a Redhill to Zones 2-6 Travelcard which is the ticket I would like. Please can someone confirm that I am fine to buy the travelcard option for my commute? If my assumption is correct, why is the travelcard option not advertised for people wishing to commute out of London?

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Welcome to the forum.

I do not know why it's only offered in one direction, but as a Season is valid for unlimited journeys between origin & destination (including intermediate stops) it makes absolutely no difference which 'direction' it is issued for.

Providing you do not pass through Zone 1, (e.g. if you change at Clapham Junction [CLJ]), then the ticket you propose is absolutely fine for a Barnes [BNS] to Redhill [RDH] journey.

As an added benefit, if you do wish to travel within Zone 1, then you can do so without charge by taking a bus, as a Travelcard for any number of Zones is valid on all buses which accept Travelcards, in any zone.
 

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Thanks Yorkie. However Clapham Junction is in Zone 2 so I was planning on changing there?
 

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Thanks Yorkie. However Clapham Junction is in Zone 2 so I was planning on changing there?

I think that's what he means. You can't go into London Bridge, Waterloo or Victoria though.

As to why they only show the travelcard one way: I think it's a function of the way they decide what travelcards to offer. It's all based on the destination station (which is London 90% of the time) with the origin only used to show limited options when the whole journey is within the zones.
 

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Thanks Yorkie. However Clapham Junction is in Zone 2 so I was planning on changing there?
Yes that's fine, that is the example I was giving, which is the most obvious route :)
 

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Sorry to re-open an old thread and thanks for your previous help. I would like to know if this season ticket is valid via Clapham Junction, Surbiton, Woking, Guildford and across to Reigate? I expect not but am curious. I have tried using the rail miles site but it is playing up for me.

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It's a bit of a can of worms as there's no instructions on how to determine routes to a zonal destination. I believe (based on guidance for Boundary Zone fares) that routes are determined to your chosen Boundary Zone station- in this case Surbiton. I'm sure that the route you describe follows a Permitted Route to Surbiton, so is IMO valid. (edit: maybe not, see below)

National Rail Enquiries will not allow Redhill-Surbiton via Guildford on a Travelcardoffer some confirmation as a Redhill-Surbiton journey will show this route as valid with a Day Travelcard.
 
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The instructions are not in the public domain, but are apparently to take the permitted routes to the first (or last, if looking at it in reverse, as you are) station you pass through in Zone 6. For example, if that station is Surbiton, then you would need to look at the permitted routes between Redhill and Surbiton.

However some people have a different view.
 

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Looking Redhill to Barnes on BRfares.com, there are three season ticket fares. For £83.80 you get zones 1-6, £65.70 gives you zones 2-6 and £57.90 gives you zones 3-6 (all weekly fares).

So what route are you supposed to take with a Redhill to Zones 3-6 as that will exclude Clapham Junction (Zone 2)? Presumably head out of London and around the Kingston loop ....

Also fares from Reigate appear to be the same and surely a Reigate to Zones 2-6 would abe very acceptable for travel via Dorking/Deepdene
 

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The instructions are not in the public domain, but are apparently to take the permitted routes to the first (or last, if looking at it in reverse, as you are) station you pass through in Zone 6.

The way it's phrased (my bold) is unhelpful though - pass through en route to where?! My view is that any Z6-edge station can be chosen, as long as the permitted routes don't pass through any of the Zones on the way to it.

Looking Redhill to Barnes on BRfares.com, there are three season ticket fares. For £83.80 you get zones 1-6, £65.70 gives you zones 2-6 and £57.90 gives you zones 3-6 (all weekly fares).

So what route are you supposed to take with a Redhill to Zones 3-6 as that will exclude Clapham Junction (Zone 2)? Presumably head out of London and around the Kingston loop ....

BRFares doesn't check routes - it will see BNS as a station in Zone 3, and so offer Travelcard fares appropriate for a Z3 station.

From Barnes I'd think train to Putney then Tube to Wimbledon (or bus to Wimbledon depending on where you're starting), then tram to Croydon would be the easiest route.

Also fares from Reigate appear to be the same and surely a Reigate to Zones 2-6 would abe very acceptable for travel via Dorking/Deepdene

NRE still doesn't allow it...
 
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