James Cook University Hospital station, Middlesbrough

telstarbox · 12 Jan 2014

Has construction work begun on this station yet?

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Hardcastle · 12 Jan 2014

Am surprised that the whole complex has not been renamed the James Arthur University Hospital.

Xenophon PCDGS · 12 Jan 2014

It was hoped originally to be opened on 24th March 2014.

Marton · 12 Jan 2014

telstarbox said:
Has construction work begun on this station yet?

Nothing to see last Thursday.

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Xenophon PCDGS · 12 Jan 2014

What was the officially agreed time period that was allocated for the period of construction and if any reasons exist for delays to this timetable, what are they stated to be ?

bluenoxid · 12 Jan 2014

Construction was due to start Summer 2013. Not seen anything in the public domain but Tees Valley Unlimited is subject to FoI Act

There was supposed to be improvements to 11 stations to be delivered as well as this new station.

Darandio · 12 Jan 2014

bluenoxid said:
There was supposed to be improvements to 11 stations to be delivered as well as this new station.

Of which there have been. New shelters and screens at Dinsdale, new screens at Eaglescliffe. But nothing on the order of what was first discussed.

ainsworth74 · 12 Jan 2014

They've also put in new (worse) PA's and I believe hearing aid loops at all stations on the Tees Valley Line but that's about it. Which is disappointing really.

Interestingly the station is already on Google Maps! Seems they have jumped the gun a bit...

Eagle · 12 Jan 2014

ainsworth74 said:
Interestingly the station is already on Google Maps! Seems they have jumped the gun a bit...

Google Maps automatically takes various coordinates from Wikipedia articles if they've been added.

Although in this case it would seem to be a user submission as it's not quite in the same place that Wikipedia points to, and it's been abbreviated differently.

bluenoxid · 12 Jan 2014

Darandio said:
Of which there have been. New shelters and screens at Dinsdale, new screens at Eaglescliffe. But nothing on the order of what was first discussed.

I don't think that was funded from this pot of work

https://www.teesvalleyunlimited.gov.uk/media/92067/lstf_tees_valley_rail_access.pdf

Annex A suggests that those works are already from something else.

Gathursty · 13 Jan 2014

It seems Google or a user of it has also managed to get rid of Okehampton and Sampford Courtenay stations too.

bluenoxid · 15 Jan 2014

bluenoxid said:
Construction was due to start Summer 2013. Not seen anything in the public domain but Tees Valley Unlimited is subject to FoI Act

There was supposed to be improvements to 11 stations to be delivered as well as this new station.

Construction started 6th January. Subject to no delays it is programmed to finish mid May.

Xenophon PCDGS · 16 Jan 2014

bluenoxid said:
Construction started 6th January. Subject to no delays it is programmed to finish mid May.

Thanks for submitting this information.

I mentioned this in passing to the Northern Rail customer relations team in Leeds when I was discussing another matter and the young lady that I was speaking to claimed that she knew of no stations that were to be opened..:roll:

bluenoxid · 1 Feb 2014

Supposedly they are expecting 813 passenger journeys per day. This is 50 passengers getting on or off each train (expected to be 16)

See page 18

https://www.teesvalleyunlimited.gov.uk/media/92067/lstf_tees_valley_rail_access.pdf

Am I the only one who thinks this is incredibly optimistic? That is 200,000 entries and exits per annum (based on Monday to Friday) and 20 times the number from Marton down the road.

alanf · 1 Feb 2014

Probably optimistic but parking is a nightmare.I think the other problem is patients/staff living near the stations on that line Stockton Thornaby Billingham and Middlesbrough aren't particually near the main housing areas so until the tram network that keeps getting mentioned actually happens i cant see 813 happening. I would love to be proved wrong though

bluenoxid · 2 Feb 2014

Is this going to be a new station that misses it's forecast?

Tees Valley Metro as a brand has been quietly dropped because of the connotations with a Light Rail scheme that is not going to be arriving.

YorkshireBear · 2 Feb 2014

Needs to be part of a wider package to be successful.

ainsworth74 · 2 Feb 2014

The whole package as proposed should work and be successful but the area is unlikely to ever see the whole thing delivered let alone as one coherent package in fairly short time scale.

YorkshireBear · 2 Feb 2014

ainsworth74 said:
The whole package as proposed should work and be successful but the area is unlikely to ever see the whole thing delivered let alone as one coherent package in fairly short time scale.

Oh i agree, i just don't see the new station attracting significant passengers without an aligned increase in services. Hopefully possible towards end of CP5. Although i doubt it.

TBY-Paul · 2 Feb 2014

I suppose the estimates are based on the fact that the station will be used by people from the nearby estates, and not just people going to and from the hospital.
It will be quite a useful station for people living nearby.

telstarbox · 23 Apr 2014

These photos on the Esk Valley Railway blog (posted 11 April) show that the platform structure is well advanced:

http://eskvalleyrailway.wordpress.com/

Also a news release from the hospital:

http://southtees.nhs.uk/hospitals/james-cook/directions/new-rail-halt/

TBY-Paul · 24 Apr 2014

I noticed the platform has been built on the old track bed, from when it was dual track, that limits any chance of the old track being re-instated any time soon.

ainsworth74 · 24 Apr 2014

TBY-Paul said:
I noticed the platform has been built on the old track bed, from when it was dual track, that limits any chance of the old track being re-instated any time soon.

Not that the line is crying out for re-doubling.

Looks good on the whole and might mean they still make or aren't far off the original May 2014 target for opening.

telstarbox · 24 Apr 2014

It's showing up in journey planners from the May timetable change (you can't search directly for trains but it'll show up as a calling point on a Middlesbrough-Nunthorpe service).

The e-NRT doesn't include a date for the start of service though.

MidnightFlyer · 24 Apr 2014

Northern's new timetables (2 and 5) include JCUH on both the map and in the tables and give no indication that it wouldn't be open when the timetable commences. Perhaps locally produced literature on stations will imply otherwise however.

Marton · 24 Apr 2014

Passing it tonight it is coming on well. Back of platform fencing up.

Not seen any local publicity.

I do wonder how much use it will get as the connections in Middlesbrough are poor.

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ainsworth74 · 25 Apr 2014

The best suggestion I heard in terms of serving the station came from a TPE guard who thought that services that now currently terminate at Middlesbrough should instead run through to JCUH and terminate there. That would give an hourly service using DDA compliant stock which would have reasonable connections to/from other services at Middlesbrough as well as offering direct services to stations further afield.

It might be a bit a challenge in terms of timetable but it certainly made sense to me!

gordonthemoron · 25 Apr 2014

ainsworth74 said:
The best suggestion I heard in terms of serving the station came from a TPE guard who thought that services that now currently terminate at Middlesbrough should instead run through to JCUH and terminate there. That would give an hourly service using DDA compliant stock which would have reasonable connections to/from other services at Middlesbrough as well as offering direct services to stations further afield.

It might be a bit a challenge in terms of timetable but it certainly made sense to me!

the new timetable has 11 services from Newcastle to JCUH mon-sat and of these 8 start from Hexham mon-fri and 10 on saturday

swt_passenger · 25 Apr 2014

Within the last day or so (it wasn't showing when I first looked a day or two back)
realtimetrains now has the calling times loaded:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/advanced/JCH/2014/05/19/0200-0159?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt

NorthernSpirit · 25 Apr 2014

ainsworth74 said:
The best suggestion I heard in terms of serving the station came from a TPE guard who thought that services that now currently terminate at Middlesbrough should instead run through to JCUH and terminate there. That would give an hourly service using DDA compliant stock which would have reasonable connections to/from other services at Middlesbrough as well as offering direct services to stations further afield.

It might be a bit a challenge in terms of timetable but it certainly made sense to me!

I think TPE should start a morning service from Whitby that arrives into Middlesborough by 0830 by calling at certain stops such as Grosmont, Danby, Battersby, Great Ayton then all station to Middlesborough. Anything in between should be request stops as it would offer a decent enough service in the morning so to offer a decent connection to places of emplyment in Middlesborough.

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