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Can any class 66 drivers describe the rear walls on both the cabs on a class 66?

I need the information to complete a 5 inch model of a class 66.

I know that the No. 1 cab has twin doors and in the middle electric cabinets - but how are these laid out. A photo would be ideal.

Is the other cab, with the central door, the same layout as a class 60? Again a photo would be useful.
 
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I'd get you pics but I'm on leave. No.1 cab as you say has a door either side, and a number of electrical cabinets. The top 2 secure in the middle and open sideways - these house the circuit breakers, aws isolation etc. Below that you have a long drop down door, it drops down almost like a bench. Behind that is your main computer system. There is a panel below that if my memory serves correctly but there is no access for train crew.
No.2 end only has the door in the middle. It's so tight there's no room for anything else between the seats and bulkhead.
 
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Thanks for your reply. Very helpful.

Any chance of some pictures when you return from leave?
 
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I'm off for two weeks but yes I'm sure I can do that when I get back.
 
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PM me an email address.

I'm back on Thursday.

British, German or Dutch?
 
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When this project is completed is there any chance of seeing some pictures of the finished model?, sounds fascinating!. Also, would you ever consider doing additional class 66 projects in the same scale and how much would that cost?
 
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I thought they were American/Canadian ?

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Come on, it's one or the other :lol:

The Dutchies have lovely romantic in cab lighting, no key and a wraparound driving console - best bit is the despicable second mans seat. Rock hard fold down affair bolted to the bulkhead and gaffers are desperate to bail out when riding out - suits me :)

The Germans have version IV TPWS with very quiet and hair trigger DSD - a few have 'lost time' enroute due to unsolicited brake applications :)

Apart from the external BP reduction valve they're almost identical in operation - only the cab layout and switch locations that differ - the throttle is like a cheap aircraft throttle without notch indication.

They're all relatively comfortable, clean and quiet - even the aircon is great (when not isolated).


Barry, I'll send a few pics on Thursday evening - if there's a Dutch type there I'll get some from that too but the bulkheads are identical except that there's no warning of unprotected traction current on the Dutch version.



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I've not driven the Dutch or German variants yet but I do prefer the wrap around cab, the only thing I picked up on I didn't like was the throttle seemed slightly too far away.
 
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HSTfan!!! said:
I've not driven the Dutch or German variants yet but I do prefer the wrap around cab, the only thing I picked up on I didn't like was the throttle seemed slightly too far away.
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Is it actually the throttle? I would imagine in a diesel-electric it is better named a power handle?
 
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Legzr1 said:
They're all relatively comfortable, clean and quiet - even the aircon is great (when not isolated).
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I take it you're referring to the Dutch versions when you say they are quiet?

I know several drivers who have taken to wearing ear plugs on 66's. You can't hold a conversation without shouting if the throttle is above notch 6.

Number 2 cab (radiator compartment end) is horrendously noisey when being worked hard and has the added bonus that when you open the cab windows to get some fresh air, all the hot air from the rads gets sucked back into the cab.

Mind you, the seat is comfy I suppose.

I know they are cheap, reliable and easy to maintain but I always get the impression that driver comfort was an after thought.

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Yes, I was referring to the Dutch sourced 66s.

I have no doubt that after a couple of years of thrashing they'll end up as bad as the rest of the class - however, they've started from a better point with decent sound-deadening and sound proofing of the cab (clearly an after-thought on the very early EWS loco's).

The door seals seem far better too - no heat from radiators (just extra heat from the traction motors when the windows are opened!).

The aircon is brilliant - unfortunately (as said earlier) one in the fleet has been flying around with it isolated - worked fine in January, knackered in July - welcome to the railway...

DBS/EWS issued all drivers with hearing protection for use in the cab (obviously the reason wasn't the cost of earbuds -vs- total rebuild of the cab, no - that was just a company bonus...).

GBRf issued ear protection but only for use in the engine room - that might change when the loco's get as worn as those from FL and DBS.
 
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It's a tight fit - those marks below the gauges came from my elbows :cry:
 
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