New TV series - On The Yorkshire Buses - starts Friday July 11th at 8pm

IanXC · 26 Jul 2014

harry42 said:
1st one was great, 2nd one was boring as mentioned...

Going to watch Fridays tonight, hope its better

Without giving anything away, I thought it was back on a par with episode 1!

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Robertj21a · 26 Jul 2014

IanXC said:
Without giving anything away, I thought it was back on a par with episode 1!

Possibly worse ? - shows the company in a poor light if it cancels services so easily.

Qwerty133 · 26 Jul 2014

Robertj21a said:
Possibly worse ? - shows the company in a poor light if it cancels services so easily.

But they were cancelling services in Ep1 as well (Due to a lack of drivers, not buses admittedly). Why they didn't put a few coaches out on schools to keep services running is what I'm wondering.

Robertj21a · 27 Jul 2014

Qwerty133 said:
But they were cancelling services in Ep1 as well (Due to a lack of drivers, not buses admittedly). Why they didn't put a few coaches out on schools to keep services running is what I'm wondering.

Why didn't they just hire a few buses from dealers - there's plenty around.

Shrimper · 27 Jul 2014

I think in reality they brought some over from Finglands in Manchester, but the programme implied you can ring ADL and get 5 buses delivered next day!

Busaholic · 27 Jul 2014

The programme makers like to give the impression this is an independent company that has been family-owned for generations. We all know this is being economical with the truth. Why companies allow such programmes is baffling - but then Easyjet is still operating after the series showing all their failings at first hand, so maybe bad publicity is better than no publicity. Anyway, it shines a good light on most of the employees, struggling manfully to maintain services,even if showing an out-of-touch owner and, probably, senior management. Now where else is that true? Answers on a postcard.

Robertj21a · 27 Jul 2014

Busaholic said:
The programme makers like to give the impression this is an independent company that has been family-owned for generations. We all know this is being economical with the truth. Why companies allow such programmes is baffling - but then Easyjet is still operating after the series showing all their failings at first hand, so maybe bad publicity is better than no publicity. Anyway, it shines a good light on most of the employees, struggling manfully to maintain services,even if showing an out-of-touch owner and, probably, senior management. Now where else is that true? Answers on a postcard.

So who now owns EYMS ?

Whistler40145 · 27 Jul 2014

EYMS was previously part of the National Bus Company, but as part of deregulation it was privatised in 1987, and is part of EYMS Group Ltd which was formed by its Management Team, it's now owned by Peter Shipp, who's been with the company since 1980.

Busaholic · 27 Jul 2014

TimSYoung40145 said:
EYMS was previously part of the National Bus Company, but as part of deregulation it was privatised in 1987, and is part of EYMS Group Ltd which was formed by its Management Team, it's now owned by Peter Shipp, who's been with the company since 1980.

EYMS became part of the B.E.T. Group in 1926 - they also owned Ribble,Southdown,Midland Red and many other bus companies home and abroad: their chief company rival was the Tilling group, which ran Bristol Omnibus, Crosville, West Yorkshire Road Car, etc before they all got nationalised in 1969 as NBC. So presenting it as an old family firm is misleading; if they'd wanted one of those they should have gone to Delaine's of Bourne or Pennine Motors of Skipton instead, but then they might have found a firm which had gone out of existence between filming and showing!

Whistler40145 · 27 Jul 2014

It's a bit of a con!

overthewater · 1 Aug 2014

I think this show is pulling the eyes over the viewers again, How will EYMS sort out its current troubles with brand new buses? It may solve the long term issues, but as a stop gap its pointless. The only way would be to hire in some buses....

fgwrich · 7 Aug 2014

Just wondering if anyone else has noticed this too but, In each episode there seems to be a problem with a vehicle which coincidently (or to me) seems to be a Alexander Dennis Product. Is it just me or are they showing Alex Dennis's 'renown' build quality up rather well? In the episode I was watching today, there was a fairly new Enviro 400 which seem to have burst in Scarborough dropping a fair load of it's engine oil into the street...

Shrimper · 7 Aug 2014

One episode I saw showed a Dart failing miserably, which led to them phoning ADL and (if the film is to be believed) getting 5 brand new E300s the very next day.

I don't think the average passenger would have any idea what make of bus they are on - further complicated by ADL coachwork potentially being on a MAN chassis.

phil8715 · 7 Aug 2014

It's hilarious, it makes my local bus operator Lancashire United look like a professional outfit.

Busaholic · 9 Aug 2014

Such a shame, to the general viewer it will give the impression that only one of the big bus groups is able to offer a decent service these days except for 'niche' services like the other open-top service in Scarborough. Perhaps the reality, though, is that this getting closer to the truth than ever before as well-regarded independent operators either call it a day or sell out to one of the groups. If one of them came along with a half-decent offer for EYMS (and subject to the usual regulatory garbage) would EYMS's owners really resist for long?

GaryMcEwan · 9 Aug 2014

They might be a large independent company, but they are bigger than McGill's of Greenock who is the largest independent in Scotland?

mbonwick · 9 Aug 2014

Bigger than McGills by about 20 vehicles, but in reality McGills have a lot stored, so the difference is even greater.

Robertj21a · 9 Aug 2014

Busaholic said:
Such a shame, to the general viewer it will give the impression that only one of the big bus groups is able to offer a decent service these days except for 'niche' services like the other open-top service in Scarborough. Perhaps the reality, though, is that this getting closer to the truth than ever before as well-regarded independent operators either call it a day or sell out to one of the groups. If one of them came along with a half-decent offer for EYMS (and subject to the usual regulatory garbage) would EYMS's owners really resist for long?

Peter Shipp wants to keep the company as it is for as long as possible. Presumably that would only change when he felt that he was ready to retire.

Busaholic · 10 Aug 2014

Robertj21a said:
Peter Shipp wants to keep the company as it is for as long as possible. Presumably that would only change when he felt that he was ready to retire.

Having just seen the latest TV episode with Hull's 'Big Bus Day', it's evident to me that Peter Shipp's heart is in the right place and I hope EYMS can carry on being independent for many years to come.

ian1944 · 10 Aug 2014

Re. the Regal from Scarborough getting "lost" on the way to the gala in Hull, wasn't it strange how there was a camera out on the supposedly wrong route? In reality the on-board camera had time to get off and film the bus. Of course it was going to get there on time, the on-board camera crew would direct the driver via satnav phones if necessary. Why do they have to manufacture a fake drama like this, as if the story of in-house preserved buses congregating wasn't interesting enough by itself?

Y961 XBU · 22 Aug 2014

Has the Programme finished? its not on today
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Dont matter i found out, thank god for the Plus 1!

Class 33 · 22 Aug 2014

It was on at 7pm tonight! Catch it on Channel 5+1 now.

Qwerty133 · 22 Aug 2014

It was on at 7, which I've just found out after turning to 5 at 8. Now on +1 channel 44 on freeview, seems to be the same next week according to guid. Suppose that's one way to dump a programme claiming no one is watching...

overthewater · 22 Aug 2014

It's 8 episodes? Five would have been better off with 6 episodes and have no padding. It's an interesting series but it does seems like padding some times.

plymothian · 23 Aug 2014

At least they have controllers who get out of the office and a proactive at getting to problems to trouble shoot, rather than sat at the end of a dodgy radio going 'oh I don't know, I'll have a look at Google Maps'.

Robertj21a · 23 Aug 2014

overthewater said:
It's 8 episodes? Five would have been better off with 6 episodes and have no padding. It's an interesting series but it does seems like padding some times.

If they cut out the padding, the repetition and the continual reference to Scarborough open toppers then they'd only have enough for about 3-4 episodes.

ian1944 · 23 Aug 2014

The most recent episode featured two roving inspectors. One lost his rag when accused of not handing back the ticket he'd just checked and things escalated. Whatever happened in detail, we can judge only on what is broadcast and it seemed vindictively OOT to involve the police and ban two passengers from ever riding again. Why didn't he say immediately something like "Yes, I did give it back to you, but anyway it doesn't matter because you'll not be inspected again on this journey, so even if you don't have one it won't matter", then walk away, rather than get involved in a nasty confrontation?

Robertj21a · 23 Aug 2014

ian1944 said:
The most recent episode featured two roving inspectors. One lost his rag when accused of not handing back the ticket he'd just checked and things escalated. Whatever happened in detail, we can judge only on what is broadcast and it seemed vindictively OOT to involve the police and ban two passengers from ever riding again. Why didn't he say immediately something like "Yes, I did give it back to you, but anyway it doesn't matter because you'll not be inspected again on this journey, so even if you don't have one it won't matter", then walk away, rather than get involved in a nasty confrontation?

Surely the key problem was not the matter of the missing ticket it was the fact that the passenger came up with the usual '.....you're a racist' jibe ?

Busaholic · 23 Aug 2014

ian1944 said:
The most recent episode featured two roving inspectors. One lost his rag when accused of not handing back the ticket he'd just checked and things escalated. Whatever happened in detail, we can judge only on what is broadcast and it seemed vindictively OOT to involve the police and ban two passengers from ever riding again. Why didn't he say immediately something like "Yes, I did give it back to you, but anyway it doesn't matter because you'll not be inspected again on this journey, so even if you don't have one it won't matter", then walk away, rather than get involved in a nasty confrontation?

Having just finished watching this episode, I don't understand why the passenger was being chased in the first place, as he apparently undisputedly had a valid ticket, and as you say it was OOT. Wonder if the presence of the TV cameraman had a detrimental effect on the situation.

Teflon Lettuce · 24 Aug 2014

ian1944 said:
The most recent episode featured two roving inspectors. One lost his rag when accused of not handing back the ticket he'd just checked and things escalated. Whatever happened in detail, we can judge only on what is broadcast and it seemed vindictively OOT to involve the police and ban two passengers from ever riding again. Why didn't he say immediately something like "Yes, I did give it back to you, but anyway it doesn't matter because you'll not be inspected again on this journey, so even if you don't have one it won't matter", then walk away, rather than get involved in a nasty confrontation?

reaction OTT? I don't think so. The inspector had been accused of a criminal offence ie being racist, purely for doing his job correctly. Most bus companies have a stated zero policy on abuse towards staff or other passengers. Of course many do not enforce their words with as much vigour as some. It was obvious from the footage broadcast that the youth involved was not going to be reasonable or listen to reason. In fact a second look at the footage will show that the inspector did not want the banning order issued for the "your a racist" comment, but because of the youth's general abusive and disruptive behaviour. If I had been a passenger on that bus I would've given the inspector a round of applause.

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