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317/7 Demonstrator Unit
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Bringback309s
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Sat in the front of Ilford yard Saturday just gone...
D365
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From what I gathered, it was being prepared for a run... are these transformer faults new?
Hope it can be fixed soon.
Shunter_69
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It went to Hornsey and back on Monday on a route learning trip.
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Has sat idle pretty much for a year after much time and effort appeared to be put into trialling it.
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Which is a pity, as refurbished Class 317s would be perfect for EWR, or to provide additional rolling stock in the Anglia region. Angel Trains not interested in flogging the GN and LO units?
Who was learning Ilford-Hornsey?
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One of the senior guys was learning it so he could show others but they only went at night which made it almost impossible to learn so they went during the day and videoed the journey.
What depot? And who else is going to learn it? Interested to know if I'll be going back there!
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Aren't the 321s being done regardless, by the ROSCO?
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TH at Ilford. Not sure what the future plans are.
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Shunter_69
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Have edited it. I thought that hence not being overly specific the first time.
Tottenham Flyer
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722 was moved to Bishops Stortford this morning for passenger work this afternoon.
Kite159
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Confirm that it is working passenger work (14:27 to Stratford from Tottenham Hale)
Tottenham Flyer
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Will be out tomorrow (Friday). Not sure about the weekend yet- will peruse the diagrams tomorrow and see if there's a suitable one for it.
Kite159
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It be quite nice inside, although looks to have the 387 style seats in at least one of the coaches
scott118
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BIS drivers don't sign 317's?
The only time I was on the demonstrator was when it was going Stratford to Bishops Stortford. And every other train is a 317 isn't it?
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I understood drivers had to be specifically trained on 317 722 as its handling characteristics were found to differ substantially from the standard 317.
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I think you'll find they do....
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So hang on, somebody in control has made the effort to move it to Stortford "for use" after IL eventually fix it but a load of drivers have claimed not to sign it and there are cancellations as a result.
You wonder why AGA (especiaply the first A) have a bad rep as a bunch of clowns?!
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I not a train driver but you do not seam to understand how traction knowledge works in the industry.
Drives need training on units
This needs yo be kept up to date and lapses if they do not drive particular traction type
It seams to me that train drivers take their safety responsibilities seriously and speaking personally I would not want it any other way
Drives need training on units
This needs yo be kept up to date and lapses if they do not drive particular traction type
It seams to me that train drivers take their safety responsibilities seriously and speaking personally I would not want it any other way
Trust me when I say that 722 handles totally different to a regular 317, the braking is entirely different, and a lot of recently qualified drivers haven't ever driven 722 so will need training on it, as there is new equipment on it and the locations of other equipment have changed compared to a normal 317.
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I think the question was why did Control not know that, not criticism of the drivers, who obviously have to know what's different about it. How does it handle when coupled to another 317, or is that prohibited at the moment?
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