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Does anyone have the exact date and location of the fire in 2005 which resulted in this unit being withdrawn?
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Indeed it would seem it was near Nailsea and Backwell, but it was 143613 (wondered why I was finding videos of 143615 happily roaming the Cardiff area only a month or so ago!)
Pictures here:
http://www.locoscene.co.uk/showMultiLocoPics.php?loconoid=2202
Edit, picture of 143615 here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dmc1947/6133198627/
So I'm now a tad confused!
Pictures here:
http://www.locoscene.co.uk/showMultiLocoPics.php?loconoid=2202
Edit, picture of 143615 here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dmc1947/6133198627/
So I'm now a tad confused!
was the good half of each formed to make a good unit? Your second link shows 1 carriage from 613 and one from 615?
sprinterguy
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No. Both carriages of both 143613 and 143615 were written off and scrapped. If there are videos purportedly of 143615 a month ago then they are incorrectly titled.
Temple Meads
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I'm getting very confused now, as my copy of RailGuide 2011 shows 143615 as alive and well..
Indeed - the two recent vids on YT show 625, not 615. The low quality resolution of the camera doesn't help matters mind.
EDIT: Last month's Today's Railways UK lists ATW's 143 Pacer fleet as being 143601, 602, 604-10, 614, 616, 622-625.
EDIT: Last month's Today's Railways UK lists ATW's 143 Pacer fleet as being 143601, 602, 604-10, 614, 616, 622-625.
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I thought that the Pacer that went up in smoke and has been banished from the network was in blue, Wessex trains livery, not Valley Lines as in the picture.
Actually, looking at my NREA 2011, both 613 and 615 are no more, and I didn't realize that two had given up and decided to burn!
Actually, looking at my NREA 2011, both 613 and 615 are no more, and I didn't realize that two had given up and decided to burn!
g4mby
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So does the 2012 edition but the coach numbers shown are those of 143616.
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There is/was a cab from one of these units sitting around at Canton for years, I think it still had a unit number on it. Alas, I don't know what it was...
Temple Meads
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IIRC both a Valley Lines and Regional Railways liveried 143 has been burnt to death.
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Right on the first one, second one I believe was when Wessex Trains were in control of things, where they just splashed loads of blue vinyls over the Pacers.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dmc1947/6133198497/ - 143613 - Wessex.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15218213@N06/8130676505/ - 143615 - Valley Lines
Half of one, half of the other post incident: http://www.flickr.com/photos/67444577@N02/6990018081/
None were ever burnt (to an extent that they were scrapped) in RR livery.
However.... to confuse things further, various mis-formings have taken place over the years, as detailed in this wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_143
Theres a better charred picture in the first link if you go to the left than the bottom link you post
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Some time ago I asked for details of when this unit went on fire causing it to be withdrawn. This could not be determined at the time but I have now established it was 26.04.2004 at Ystrad Mynach
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