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Fastest route between Kings Cross and Euston

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(I know it's walking distance!)

There's a reasonably generous allowance between these two stations, and I've got a supposed 44 minute transfer planned tomorrow at 8pm.

However, in the unlikely event of weather occurring, anything could happen! My final journey is on an unreserved Standard Off-Peak, so I don't have to be there to make the connection.

What I'm wondering is, coming off the VTEC at King's Cross, and without knowing in advance how tubes and bus are, which method is, on average, the quickest means of transferring?

I'd like to make my transfer as quickly as possible to give me time to buy some refreshments at Euston.
 
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Bus by a country mile. There is a continuous procession of buses along the Euston Road. Use the Tube and you'll be walking a fair distance through tunnels and/or on the surface that almost negates the gain.

Indeed, there is no circumstance under which I would use the Tube for that journey even with a ticket including it (cross-London transfer tickets do not include bus travel). Bus or walk are the only two modes I would consider - even more so from Euston to KX where you don't have to cross the Euston Road to do it.
 
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Bus by a country mile. There is a continuous procession of buses along the Euston Road. Use the Tube and you'll be walking a fair distance through tunnels and/or on the surface that almost negates the gain.

Indeed, there is no circumstance under which I would use the Tube for that journey even with a ticket including it (cross-London transfer tickets do not include bus travel). Bus or walk are the only two modes I would consider - even more so from Euston to KX where you don't have to cross the Euston Road to do it.
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walking out of the side of Kings Cross, through St Pancras, over Midland Road, through the Britiah library grounds, along Euston road and cutting down Churchway and Grafton place is is quicker at peak times.
 
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Just walk. It'll take about 10 minutes and half of that will be waiting to cross roads. The bus will probably take longer stuck in traffic and cost a fortune.Youve even got time to have a nosey around St Pancras with that changeover.
 
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You would be mental to take the bus

Walk it here

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No brainer , WALK ..... busy pavements mind, so if you're trawling luggage then be careful

but LU will render you walking a similar distance anyway....

I hope the weather is kind to you , bon voyage
 
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Taking the bus is slow, as the buses going westbound don't serve Euston bus station (476 and 59 excepted).

Tube is the fastest, so long as you ignore the signs for the Victoria Line in the main line station and enter the tube through the old ticket barrier line. I've done getting off the train at Kings Cross to getting on the train at Euston in five minutes before, via the tube.

But walking is a gentle ten minute walk along Euston Road (which is quicker from the KGX arrivals barriers) or through St Pancras and Phoenix Road (which is quicker from the KGX suburban platforms).
 
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Tube is the fastest, so long as you ignore the signs for the Victoria Line in the main line station and enter the tube through the old ticket barrier line. I've done getting off the train at Kings Cross to getting on the train at Euston in five minutes before, via the tube.
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So is that down the stairs out the front of the station?
 
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Down the set of stairs closest to the station front, but turn left instead of right. Saves about a five minute walk.
 
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You would be mental to take the bus

Walk it here

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That does look like a really handy walking route, and I'll enter the station via M&S, which is ideal for my shopping needs.

I'm going to be travelling with a large rucksack, but I'm pretty fit, so it'd be useful to avoid the bulk of the pedestrians.

So it's out via the Great Northern platforms, straight through St Pancakes, right and first left?
 
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Do you reckon? Surely you walk as far through tunnels / from Euston Square as you would to walk direct?
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Depends. If you go into the Victoria Line from the old tube ticket hall it's a short escalator down, and at Euston if you go from the suburban platforms (which I normally end up doing) the subway is a handy shortcut. I've got into KGX at 55 and caught the 04 Tring with time to spare before now.

If you're not in that level of rush then walking is the best option, mind. Just watch out along Phoenix Road. A mate of mine lives on there and his girlfriend- who's street savvy- had her phone lifted out of her hand just before Christmas. It's safe enough, just be wary as it is quiet.
 
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You'd be mad to get the tube, unless the fare is already included.
 
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Neil Williams said:
Do you reckon? Surely you walk as far through tunnels / from Euston Square as you would to walk direct?

Taxi, I would imagine, is the absolute quickest.
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It depends on the time of day. I disagree with your earlier assertion that the bus is quicker, especially in the direction the OP has stated, as you have to cross the road at Euston. I'd say the Victoria line is quickest, provided you enter via the Tube ticket hall.
 
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Walking is best if it's not a problem.

I was running late once and didn't know any better so took a cab. Took 15 minutes overall from memory, 5 minutes on the road and 10 minutes walking between the cab ranks and the platforms. Best option if you have lots of luggage and have difficulty walking perhaps, or a few of you and you split the fare.

The tube involves so may tunnels and escalators that unless you're a fast walker and luck out with the connections it will take as long as walking along the road. Unless you don't mind and it's included in your ticket,

A bus might take 20 minutes! But it is a slow, last option if you don't have the tube transfer included in your ticket, have lots of luggage and want to save, what, 50p?
 
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I usually walk - allow 15 minutes. You might spend almost as long walking around tube stations and if the tube is not at the platform when you need is then that is more time wasted. Bus not worth it also YOU WILL NOT BE LET ON THE BUS IF YOU TRY TO PAY BY CASH btw. Tube is the best way to avoid the rain however but note the short cuts mentioned up thread - Kings Cross tube station is a labyrinth and the platforms seem to be to the East of the mainline stations.

Since you are arriving by VTEC then get off at the front of the train straight out the front of Kings Cross station and turn right along the Euston Road. So you are not going through St Pancras. Turn right at Eversholt street (or detour round the back of the fire station on that grey route including Grafton Place). Left up the steps from Eversholt Street and in via the Marks and Spencer.

Regarding the photo, the Harrier is no good, do not forget you will be inside London's controlled emissions zone !. Thats got to be the 70/80s ?. I can see the links into St Pancras goods - which is now the British Library. Those bridges must be roughly where the current Midland Mainline platforms are and the 45s+Mk1s/Mk2s have been ousted by Eurostars.
 
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Kings Cross to Euston - I usually walk it. normally through St Pancras past the Thameslink entrance & out past the Crick Institute - far easier than navigating the crowds on Euston Road.

Euston to Kings Cross - I often can get a tightish change to a GN departure from KX so often get the bus (using oyster payg) especially if I have luggage. it is easy getting the bus this way as all buses go through Euston bus station and there are no roads to Cross so usually don' t need to wait long for a bus. I think the record I did was 7 minutes from leaving a pendo to being sat on a 365 on platform 7 at Kings Cross about 2 minutes before it was due to depart.
going the other way you have to cross the road at Kings Cross to the bus stop and most buses involve crossing the road at Euston as well - the best one to use is 59 or 476 as they do go into the bus station - during wich time waiting for these I would have walked most of the distance to Euston. I think the only time I got the tube was when it was torrential & used the Victoria Line.
 
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That'll do. Is it like Uber, can I book it from an app?
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Between the 4th and 11th May 1969, the Daily Mail sponsored an air race between London and New York to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the first transatlantic air crossing.

The teams had to travel from the top of the Post Office Tower to the top of the Empire State Building and back. The shortest overall time between London and New York was achieved by Squadron Leader Tom Lecky-Tompson of No.1 Squadron (Harrier GR1) and the shortest time between New York and London was set by Lieutenant Commander Brian Davies (pilot) and Lieutenant Commander Peter Goddard (observer) of No.892 Squadron (Phantom FG1).

Sadly, it couldn't be done now, for two reasons: all the Harriers were sold to the US Navy, and apparently Harriers (as single engine aircraft) are not allowed to fly over London.

So, to get back to the question ... I'd walk!!
 
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