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MTR Crossrail Trainee Train Driver Old Oak Common

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potato

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Just had the call - I've been successful, offered start date of May 2017. :)

Well done!

I had an email today... didn't make it through the DMI. Still, I'm happy to have got that far.
 
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scabek

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Well done and a big congratulations to sfxdude, start enjoying your 1 year wait??????. As for potato, it's only a matter of time before you reach the finishing line of becoming a train driver, you are taking the scenic route thats all, keep it up matey.
 

1986deano

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I got the call late this afternoon that I was successful in interview and also start may 2017 :D over the moon!!!
 

455driver

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Well done!

I had an email today... didn't make it through the DMI. Still, I'm happy to have got that far.
Get feedback to find out what let you down, fix it and reapply in a year or so, oh and well done for getting to the DMI, I think at least 90% are dumped without getting that far so you have done well, just need to fix that last bit.

Actually, I dont think the DMI counts as a fail so you havent used up a 'life' and can take your test results (which you passed before getting to the DMI) to other TOCS.
 

RanchuMTR

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Hello to everyone on this forum,

Long time lurker but I just want to say a huge thank you to everyone on this forum.

The help & advice has been invaluable.

I have my medical with MTR in August and, touch wood with all things going well, I shall be starting in November this year for Old Oak Common.

Good luck to everyone & I am sure I will see you all at some point.
 

RanchuMTR

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Hello,

Want to say a huge thank you to everyone as this forum has been an invaluable resource & a huge help to me.

I have my medical in August &, touch wood with everything going well, I shall be starting at old oak common in November this year.

Congratulations to all those that have passed & good luck to everyone still going through the various stages in the process & I am sure I will bump into some of you at some stage.
 
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RanchuMTR

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Hi Ranchu
May I ask you when you had your assessments and DMI?
I had mine end of January 2016 and start 02.01.2017!
No medical date so far...

Hi drazky,

Well done & at least you have a date so you can plan ahead even if it is still a while a way. I'm sure your medical date will be sorted soon.

Got a friend who is still waiting for start date for GTR & he has been waiting for a year and a half already! He already has passed his medical.

Mine were all done in beginning of January.
 

Wireman

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So.....after what felt like 1million tests i made it to the dmi and now I'm just waiting for a response which as we all know can take up to 14 days!
 

Wireman

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They call you probably Monday or Tuesday!
You mean June 2017?

yeah June 2017, i was also told that if i couldn't make the dmi the next one would be in September! and that training would be 32 weeks. just hope its good new next week :)
 

RanchuMTR

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yeah June 2017, i was also told that if i couldn't make the dmi the next one would be in September! and that training would be 32 weeks. just hope its good new next week :)

Good luck mate.

Have got my offer letter through the post, things are moving along & excited is an understatement, the wait is flying by :D
 

1986deano

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Good luck wireman!!
Got my offer letter through post too for 1/5/2017 seems so long away but so excited!!
Quick question.... does anyone no how many trainee driver roles there were for old oak common??
 

scabek

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Got my offer letter for 06-02-2017, spoke to one of HR lady and am told that under normal circumstances one should get the email confirmations about medical 5 months before the start date, and actual medical day should be 3 months prior to Feb. We shall see. The 8.5 months Count down has well and truely started ⌛⏳

P.S: got to stop "socialising" soon as the medical letter mentioned certain drugs and alcohol tests lol. You have been warned.
 
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Hammer4life

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Good luck wireman!!
Got my offer letter through post too for 1/5/2017 seems so long away but so excited!!
Quick question.... does anyone no how many trainee driver roles there were for old oak common??
Think just over 100 vacancies for Old oak Common, maybe 150...???
Apparently they received over 10,000 applications for the West side so you boys done well
 

SheikG

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Hello everyone,

First time poster here, so I shall start off with a sincere thank you to the regular posters for your efforts in helping the rest of us out.

I'm going in for my first assessment at the MTR Crossrail Office on Monday 6th June to undertake;

The trainability for rules and procedures part 1 and 2
GB test
DFFT
TEA-Occ

I was hoping somebody would be kind enough to help me understand the breakdown of the forthcoming stages. I.e on Monday will I only have to concentrate on the above or are there any interviews that may be sprung on me? Do I need to research the company in depth or can that be done for a later stage.

If anybody can help me understand the structure of the remaining stages I would be most grateful.

Finally for anyone yet to sit the group bourdon test, here is a great free link that i found on another thread - http://www.railforums.co.uk/bourdon.zip

Thanks all
 

sfxdude

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Hello everyone,

First time poster here, so I shall start off with a sincere thank you to the regular posters for your efforts in helping the rest of us out.

I'm going in for my first assessment at the MTR Crossrail Office on Monday 6th June to undertake;

The trainability for rules and procedures part 1 and 2
GB test
DFFT
TEA-Occ

I was hoping somebody would be kind enough to help me understand the breakdown of the forthcoming stages. I.e on Monday will I only have to concentrate on the above or are there any interviews that may be sprung on me? Do I need to research the company in depth or can that be done for a later stage.

If anybody can help me understand the structure of the remaining stages I would be most grateful.

Finally for anyone yet to sit the group bourdon test, here is a great free link that i found on another thread - http://www.railforums.co.uk/bourdon.zip

Thanks all

*If* it's structured the way it was for mine, then yes, the only tests you have on the first day are, in order, GBT, TRP1/2, TEA-Occ and the DFFT.

The first three are done all together, then you're sent out, the papers are marked and if you meet the standard you do the TEA-Occ. Same thing, sent out, then if you pass that you do the DFFT. Final send out, pass or fail then given a date for second stage.

That tool you linked to is the best bit of practice out there. Print off the sheets though, don't do it on a computer as it's all written tests in this stage.

The second stage covers the computer based tests and the MMI, and you don't need to worry about researching the company until the final interview stage (although I expect for most people they have some kind of basic understanding of MTR/crossrail before this!).

Any other questions feel free to post, and good luck.
 

SheikG

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in case anyone new to this is applying now, this is what happens when you get past the first stage (i.e applying online)
you'll be sent an email with the message i posted a few posts above)
You can click on it without being obliged to start a questionnaire and it has some useful info about what to expect next.
The names of the ensuing stages can easily be searched on the forum, there's loads of links. happy hunting



"Thank you for your interest in the Train Driver role with MTR Crossrail. This website will:

Provide you with more information about the selection process for the train driver role.
Give you the opportunity to complete an online questionnaire where you can show us how you match the role.
More about the selection process for Train Driver

A train driver has a very responsible job. It's important that we only select trainee drivers that will flourish in the role. So we need to make the right selection decision for MTR Crossrail and you. We don’t want to place you in a job that you either dislike or you find too difficult. To help us make the right decision for you and us we have put together a comprehensive selection process that we would like you to take part in.

There are seven key stages to the selection process

The stages are as follows:

Online questionnaire - This stage will involve you completing an online questionnaire as part of this website. You will need to answer some questions about how you like to work, what you know about the driver role and how you would manage different situations. If you are successful through the online questionnaire you will then be invited to complete the online testing.

Online testing - For this stage we will email you a web link to complete two tests online. The Visual Search Exercise (VSE) will take you around 60 minutes and the Situational Judgement Test (SJT) will take a further 60 minutes. Both tests will be scored and if you meet the required standard then you will be invited to attend the stage 1 testing.

Stage 1 testing: Paper and pencil tests - This stage will be held at the MTR Crossrail offices near Liverpool Street, London and you will be asked to complete a range of psychometric tests that will assess your skills and abilities that are required for the role of train driving with MTR Crossrail. These will be the Group Bourdon and Tea-Occ which assesses attention, the TRP1 and TRP2 test which is a trainability test, and the DFFT which looks at fault finding. During the assessment we will then score up your tests and if you meet the standard that we are looking for you will then be invited to attend the stage 2 testing.

Stage 2 testing: Computer based tests and MMI interview - This stage will be held at the MTR Crossrail offices again near Liverpool Street Station, London. At the centre you will be asked to complete a number of computer based tests - WAFV vigilance exercise, ATAVT perception test, 2-Hand co-ordination test, The RSSB Situational Judgement Test (SJT), Mini-M7 Test, MMI interview. Again these will be scored by our assessors throughout the day and if you meet the MTR Crossrail standard then we will invite you to attend the manager interview.

Manager Interview - You will be asked to come along to our offices again near Liverpool Street, London for you to have an interview with a line manager. This is your opportunity to tell us more about you and why you’re suitable for the role. If you are successful through the line manager interview then we will be delighted to offer you a trainee train driver role. This is subject to a satisfactory medical, reference check and DBS check.

Medical - You will be asked to attend a medical with our occupational health team where a comprehensive check will be undertaken to assess your fitness to perform the train driver role. A drugs and alcohol test will also be undertaken.

Reference and Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) Checks - We will ask you to provide references that will be verified. We will also ask you to complete a DBS form that will then be checked with the relevant statutory authorities.

The selection process could take up to 9 months

As you can see the selection process is very comprehensive with lots of different stages. So it could take us up to 9 months to take you through these stages. In addition we're expecting many people to apply for the role so it will take us some time to work through all the applications, so please be patient with us. We want to make sure that we make the right decision for you and for us and that may take some time. In addition if you are successful then you may have to wait a few months until we have a training course ready for you. Again please be patient with us."

Exactly what I was looking for, thanks and if it helps anyone else..
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*If* it's structured the way it was for mine, then yes, the only tests you have on the first day are, in order, GBT, TRP1/2, TEA-Occ and the DFFT.

The first three are done all together, then you're sent out, the papers are marked and if you meet the standard you do the TEA-Occ. Same thing, sent out, then if you pass that you do the DFFT. Final send out, pass or fail then given a date for second stage.

That tool you linked to is the best bit of practice out there. Print off the sheets though, don't do it on a computer as it's all written tests in this stage.

The second stage covers the computer based tests and the MMI, and you don't need to worry about researching the company until the final interview stage (although I expect for most people they have some kind of basic understanding of MTR/crossrail before this!).

Any other questions feel free to post, and good luck.

Thank you for the breakdown, I feel much better knowing I can fully concentrate on specific aspects. Was a bit thrown off by the timings of MMI and the final stage interview. But thank you for clearing that up.

What stage are you currently on?
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That tool you linked to is the best bit of practice out there. Print off the sheets though, don't do it on a computer as it's all written tests in this stage.[/QUOTE]

Hello mate,

On the actual GB test is there a clearly visible border around the individual boxes or is it just a page with dots separated by invisible borders as demonstrated in the picture attached? http://www.frsdevelopment.com/traindriver/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/dots.png

Thanks again
 
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scabek

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The actual test dots have no visible boxes dividing them, but they are sitting further apart so makes it easier for you to read them.
 
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