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PHILIPE · 26 Aug 2016

The other half of 150248 arrived back at StPhilips Marsh today, so should see 150233 and 150248 back in their 2 car formations soon.

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jimm · 27 Aug 2016

Video of 165101 in service on Wednesday, but still waiting for GWR branding to be applied

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP0s-qYTyM8

class387 · 27 Aug 2016

jimm said:
Video of 165101 in service on Wednesday, but still waiting for GWR branding to be applied

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP0s-qYTyM8

Still FGW interior?

fgwrich · 27 Aug 2016

class387 said:
Still FGW interior?

Yes. See screenshot below.

class387 · 27 Aug 2016

fgwrich said:
Yes. See screenshot below.

Will any other Turbos or HSTs recieve the new interior?

superalbs · 27 Aug 2016

I guess considering the plans to reseat them as 2+2, maybe they won't be getting a new interior?

spark001uk · 27 Aug 2016

fgwrich said:
Yes. See screenshot below.

I guess you'll be waiting until the rebrand is done and you'll be calling yourself "gwrrich" then ??

fgwrich · 27 Aug 2016

spark001uk said:
I guess you'll be waiting until the rebrand is done and you'll be calling yourself "gwrrich" then ??

Haha. Nope, I may change my name at some point, and it will be quicker than the rebrand and cascades!

alexl92 · 27 Aug 2016

There's a pic of a GWR Class 387 in Green in the latest Railways Illustrated. The livery looks really smart on those units, I'm impressed.

superalbs · 27 Aug 2016

I wonder when the branding will be applied, first service date is drawing near!

JN114 · 27 Aug 2016

superalbs said:
I wonder when the branding will be applied, first service date is drawing near!

Photos have been circulated internally of 387130 in full GWR branding, looks very smart.

superalbs · 27 Aug 2016

JN114 said:
Photos have been circulated internally of 387130 in full GWR branding, looks very smart.

Nice, hope to see that one out on testing sometime soon.

irish_rail · 28 Aug 2016

As far as I know still no training agreement for drivers to drive these 387s so cant see how this new service could possibly start in September when no one whatsoever in LTV land has been trained......:roll:

smiffy9373 · 28 Aug 2016

LTV have a technology & training agreement in place. IEP training package still required though.

SpacePhoenix · 29 Aug 2016

superalbs said:
Nice, hope to see that one out on testing sometime soon.

There's videos on Youtube of units being tested, there's a matt area on green on the body, where preumably the GWR logo is in place underneath.

irish_rail said:
As far as I know still no training agreement for drivers to drive these 387s so cant see how this new service could possibly start in September when no one whatsoever in LTV land has been trained......:roll:

Looks like they started driver training at the start of August:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cq4vCiPMnI

How long would it typically take to train a driver on new traction. I don't believe that GWR have anything similar to Electrostars so it's probably completely new to all their staff

irish_rail · 29 Aug 2016

No, LTV did have an agreement in place however due to overwhelming pressure from drivers, it has as far as I know been withdrawn and needs to now go to a ballot amongst LTV drivers. During the week or so the agreement was originally agreed some training of I assume driver managers took place, though im not even sure if this is happening now, though I am quite prepared to stand corrected .....

RobShipway · 30 Aug 2016

irish_rail said:
No, LTV did have an agreement in place however due to overwhelming pressure from drivers, it has as far as I know been withdrawn and needs to now go to a ballot amongst LTV drivers. During the week or so the agreement was originally agreed some training of I assume driver managers took place, though im not even sure if this is happening now, though I am quite prepared to stand corrected .....

What or who is LTV please?

swt_passenger · 30 Aug 2016

London and Thames Valley. Basically GWR has never merged the three former TOCs terms and conditions, so LTV is the former Thames Trains routes.

Tackleberry · 30 Aug 2016

irish_rail said:
As far as I know still no training agreement for drivers to drive these 387s so cant see how this new service could possibly start in September when no one whatsoever in LTV land has been trained......:roll:

There are drivers being trained on them, I know a driver manager who has been doing it!!!

fgwrich · 30 Aug 2016

swt_passenger said:
London and Thames Valley. Basically GWR has never merged the three former TOCs terms and conditions, so LTV is the former Thames Trains routes.

Also used as a reference to the fleet - e.g, Turbos are LTV, 180s and HSTs are HSS and 143/150/153/158 are West Fleet.

FGW_DID · 30 Aug 2016

fgwrich said:
Also used as a reference to the fleet - e.g, Turbos are LTV, 180s and HSTs are HSS and 143/150/153/158 are West Fleet.

180s are part of the LTV fleet.

jimm · 30 Aug 2016

irish_rail said:
No, LTV did have an agreement in place however due to overwhelming pressure from drivers, it has as far as I know been withdrawn and needs to now go to a ballot amongst LTV drivers. During the week or so the agreement was originally agreed some training of I assume driver managers took place, though im not even sure if this is happening now, though I am quite prepared to stand corrected .....

It's not as if large numbers of trained drivers will be needed for the Hayes shuttles, is it? So if some driver managers are now trained, it seems reasonable to expect start of service from Monday.

irish_rail · 30 Aug 2016

jimm said:
It's not as if large numbers of trained drivers will be needed for the Hayes shuttles, is it? So if some driver managers are now trained, it seems reasonable to expect start of service from Monday.

Well I very much doubt driver managers alone will be driving these services, for one thing it isn't allowed outside of say a strike. And with no normal drivers trained up (I believe it is a 3 week course?), cant see how on earth the service will start in September.....

43096 · 30 Aug 2016

irish_rail said:
Well I very much doubt driver managers alone will be driving these services, for one thing it isn't allowed outside of say a strike. And with no normal drivers trained up (I believe it is a 3 week course?), cant see how on earth the service will start in September.....

Whilst Driver Managers don't have daily turns, they do need to retain route and traction competency. Otherwise how do they assess drivers as part of their management role?

JN114 · 30 Aug 2016

irish_rail said:
Well I very much doubt driver managers alone will be driving these services, for one thing it isn't allowed outside of say a strike. And with no normal drivers trained up (I believe it is a 3 week course?), cant see how on earth the service will start in September.....

At least 2 drivers (not managers) are already passed out, with more to follow later this week.

Deepgreen · 31 Aug 2016

Noticed a 166 at Redhill yesterday which had the mesh effect screening on one of its external doors (pictured) already deteriorating very badly.

It also had a notice on the vestibule doors leading to first class saying "Please do not use mobile phones in this compartment". Now, much though I dislike the inconsiderate use of phones, I think this is OTT - can anyone really imagine someone sitting in first not using a phone at some point? Even if passengers spot the sign on entering first, I cannot imagine a single one taking any notice of it. It seems to be an unenforceable and pointless requirement.

FGW_DID · 1 Sep 2016

150002 is off to Donny works this Sunday for overhaul and to receive a nice shiny coat of green paint.

5E50 Reading TCD - Donaster Works.

SpacePhoenix · 1 Sep 2016

Are GWR sending their stock off for painting in a fixed order or are they being sent up whenever they're next due for a repaint? How far have they got through the repaints of the Networker Turbos?

JN114 · 1 Sep 2016

SpacePhoenix said:
Are GWR sending their stock off for painting in a fixed order or are they being sent up whenever they're next due for a repaint? How far have they got through the repaints of the Networker Turbos?

All the 166s are in repainted green or blue.
165101 is in green
165102 is at Wolverton being repainted

jimm · 1 Sep 2016

SpacePhoenix said:
Are GWR sending their stock off for painting in a fixed order or are they being sent up whenever they're next due for a repaint? How far have they got through the repaints of the Networker Turbos?

In the case of the 150/0s, 150/2s and 165/166 fleet, the repainting into green is an adjunct to the programme to fit controlled emission toilets on sets that are staying long-term with GWR - so the order of the application of the new livery is determined by the order in which sets are sent off for this work. But the first few 166s were repainted in blue before the green livery was adopted and will presumably have to wait a while for yet another coat of paint.

The 158s already have always had toilet tanks but so far only one of these units has undergone refresh work, including a repaint.

For a progress report on GWR fleet liveries, see page 84 of this thread, where 59CosG95 has posted a recent update.

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