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Thameslink 377 on Southestern Duty?

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Has the GTR handover of purple 377's to Southeastern started? There was an 8-car one on platform 4 at Victoria this morning, I couldn't see if it had a service, anyone got any info on this?
 
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Southeastern will be getting 36 377/1s soon. The 6 377/5s have been hired for a number of years.
 

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Has the GTR handover of purple 377's to Southeastern started? There was an 8-car one on platform 4 at Victoria this morning, I couldn't see if it had a service, anyone got any info on this?

Thats the 0710 from Ashford Intl via Maidstone East. It's been running as a pair of 377's since January 2015 - I know as I catch that one every morning from Maidstone East. Lots of space compared to the 465/466 pair about 10 minutes earlier.
 

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Has the GTR handover of purple 377's to Southeastern started? There was an 8-car one on platform 4 at Victoria this morning, I couldn't see if it had a service, anyone got any info on this?

the purple 377/5s will be going (back) to Southern.
 

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What are the other workings for the leased units, if anyone knows?
 
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I saw 377 506 and 377 520 arrive on Platform 6 at London Victoria at 21:16 today. They then uncoupled and 377 520 left at 21:22 while 377 506 remained on the platform. I presume they were working some Southeastern services?
 

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What are the other workings for the leased units, if anyone knows?

For now...

New pair of units from Bellingham sidings
16+47 Bellingham - London Blackfriars
17:47 London Blackfriars - Ashford

06:24 Ashford - London Blackfriars
08+12 London Blackfriars - London Victoria
Shunt to Grovsenor sidings
16:22 London Victoria - Ashford
22:32 Ashford - London Victoria

07:11 Ashford - London Victoria
Shunt to Grosvenor sidings
17:42 London Victoria - Ashford
19:38 Ashford - London Victoria
Splits to form:
21:22 London Victoria - Ashford
21:52 London Victoria - Ashford

06+34 London Victoria - Sole St
07:37 Sole St - London Blackfriars
08+50 London Blackfriars - Bromley South
09:32 Bromley South - London Victoria
10+04 London Victoria - Bellingham
Into Bellingham sidings
Swaps with next pair of units
 

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For now...

New pair of units from Bellingham sidings
16+47 Bellingham - London Blackfriars
17:47 London Blackfriars - Ashford

06:24 Ashford - London Blackfriars
08+12 London Blackfriars - London Victoria
Shunt to Grovsenor sidings
16:22 London Victoria - Ashford
22:32 Ashford - London Victoria

07:11 Ashford - London Victoria
Shunt to Grosvenor sidings
17:42 London Victoria - Ashford
19:38 Ashford - London Victoria
Splits to form:
21:22 London Victoria - Ashford
21:52 London Victoria - Ashford

06+34 London Victoria - Sole St
07:37 Sole St - London Blackfriars
08+50 London Blackfriars - Bromley South
09:32 Bromley South - London Victoria
10+04 London Victoria - Bellingham
Into Bellingham sidings
Swaps with next pair of units

Thanks!

I seem to remember that they once worked the 16:20 from CHX to Hastings, does this no longer happen?
 

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I had 377214 on the 22:26 from Maidstone East to Ashford Int a few weeks ago. I was surprised to see it as I didn't know Southeastern were using them.
 

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Thanks!

I seem to remember that they once worked the 16:20 from CHX to Hastings, does this no longer happen?

Indeed, one of the 377 diagrams incorporated the 16:20 London Charing Cross to Hastings - an express of 90 minutes petitioned for by Amber Rudd MP and, as such, called the Amber Rudd Super Express (abbreviate that yourself!)

That changed earlier this year to 2x 375s instead of 377s. Then, with the recent August timetable changes, the express has switched to Cannon Street and is now the 16:22 London Cannon Street to Hastings, which is 1x 375 for now.
 

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Indeed, one of the 377 diagrams incorporated the 16:20 London Charing Cross to Hastings - an express of 90 minutes petitioned for by Amber Rudd MP and, as such, called the Amber Rudd Super Express (abbreviate that yourself!)

That changed earlier this year to 2x 375s instead of 377s. Then, with the recent August timetable changes, the express has switched to Cannon Street and is now the 16:22 London Cannon Street to Hastings, which is 1x 375 for now.

Thanks, I always chuckle at that abbreviation!! Just 1x 375 does sound a tad cramped for such a service but I guess with unit allocations being so tight they prefer to strengthen services that run later in the peak.
 

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Something that may be of interest, the 2152 Victoria - Ashford ran via Tonbridge instead of Maidstone during the week. Anyone wanting to do Tonbridge - Ashford non-stop, next workings are 19/09/2016 - 22/09/2016.
 

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Thanks, I always chuckle at that abbreviation!! Just 1x 375 does sound a tad cramped for such a service but I guess with unit allocations being so tight they prefer to strengthen services that run later in the peak.

Such a service that now has less 100 passengers... that stock would be better used on other services!
 

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Such a service that now has less 100 passengers... that stock would be better used on other services!

I caught the 16:20 Charing Cross to Hastings "Amber Express" a few times, mainly out of curiosity, since I thought it would have few passengers, as most would get the 16:15 Charing Cross to Hastings. In fact, where I was seated, usually the 6th or 7th carriage, it was approximately half full from Waterloo East that's at least as crowded as most of the late afternoon, but pre-rush hour trains, in my experience.

Since it moved to be the 16:22 from Cannon Street and has been cut to 4 carriages, I've caught it only once. That time it was 3/4 full where I sat. I would have caught it on Friday but it was cancelled!
 

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I caught the 16:20 Charing Cross to Hastings "Amber Express" a few times, mainly out of curiosity, since I thought it would have few passengers, as most would get the 16:15 Charing Cross to Hastings. In fact, where I was seated, usually the 6th or 7th carriage, it was approximately half full from Waterloo East that's at least as crowded as most of the late afternoon, but pre-rush hour trains, in my experience.

Since it moved to be the 16:22 from Cannon Street and has been cut to 4 carriages, I've caught it only once. That time it was 3/4 full where I sat. I would have caught it on Friday but it was cancelled!

I caught this train today. I counted 103 passengers on leaving Cannon Street.
 

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For now...

New pair of units from Bellingham sidings
16+47 Bellingham - London Blackfriars
17:47 London Blackfriars - Ashford

06:24 Ashford - London Blackfriars
08+12 London Blackfriars - London Victoria
Shunt to Grovsenor sidings
16:22 London Victoria - Ashford
22:32 Ashford - London Victoria

07:11 Ashford - London Victoria
Shunt to Grosvenor sidings
17:42 London Victoria - Ashford
19:38 Ashford - London Victoria
Splits to form:
21:22 London Victoria - Ashford
21:52 London Victoria - Ashford

06+34 London Victoria - Sole St
07:37 Sole St - London Blackfriars
08+50 London Blackfriars - Bromley South
09:32 Bromley South - London Victoria
10+04 London Victoria - Bellingham
Into Bellingham sidings
Swaps with next pair of units
The last day for 377's on these services should be 25/11/2016. That is also the last date for them working on Thameslink services as well. Date may be subject to change of course due to cascade issues with the 700's.
 
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