Barmouth Bridge on Fire (04/10)

61653 HTAFC · 7 Oct 2016

185143 said:
Can I ask where you've got 18 months from? Are you merely supposing 'what if the line was closed for 18 months?' or something more substantial?

(Googles Dingwall temporary Light maintenance depot...)

It was purely a hypothetical- I was guessing that such a timescale might make arrangements for servicing units trapped, or make it worthwhile swapping them by road- as I understand it roads in the area aren't the best for shifting units on low-loaders, something along those lines was mentioned during the Pont Briwet closure.

I may be misremembering exactly what the arrangements were with Dingwall, though that too was quite a long closure while the bridge was replaced. I know that services North of Inverness were operated though, and with LHCS too.

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Trainfan344 · 7 Oct 2016

185143 said:
Can I ask where you've got 18 months from? Are you merely supposing 'what if the line was closed for 18 months?' or something more substantial?

(Googles Dingwall temporary Light maintenance depot...)

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/11991979.River_Ness_rail_bridge_swept_away_by_floodtide/

This happened and the depot set up at Dingwall to provide services.

edwin_m · 7 Oct 2016

If it's a small number of wooden beams that have burnt out, perhaps they could be replaced by temporary metal ones until the correct timber can be sourced? Anyone who visited Derby station during the mid-2000s will know what I mean.

craigybagel · 7 Oct 2016

61653 HTAFC said:
It was purely a hypothetical- I was guessing that such a timescale might make arrangements for servicing units trapped, or make it worthwhile swapping them by road- as I understand it roads in the area aren't the best for shifting units on low-loaders, something along those lines was mentioned during the Pont Briwet closure.
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On the contrary, a 158 was removed from Barmouth by road only last week! It was moved up from the depot at Machynlleth specifically for that purpose.

PHILIPE · 7 Oct 2016

ATW Journey Check updated this morning, also NRE site, to report bridge re-opens this coming Monday, 10th.

The Informer · 8 Oct 2016

Check "We Love Barmouth Beach" Facebook Page for videos of the units on low loaders coming through the town!

PHILIPE · 8 Oct 2016

craigybagel said:
On the contrary, a 158 was removed from Barmouth by road only last week! It was moved up from the depot at Machynlleth specifically for that purpose.

That was 158818 with a final drive problem and taken by lowloader to Canton.
Planned to move 158828 (trapped) to Chester where unloading access available and leaving just 2 units trapped and these were worked to Porthmadog on 6th to be fuelled from road tanker.

EDIT:- 158828 - Arrived at Canton this morning, unloaded in Canton Brickyard and moved to Canton Depot.and not taken to Chester. This, presumably due exam required.

Gareth Marston · 9 Oct 2016

Well it's suppose to be open tomorrow, normal service is showing as planned.

185143 · 9 Oct 2016

158818 is back in service, it was in Manchester Piccadilly earlier

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Gareth Marston · 10 Oct 2016

Barmouth Bridge reopened this morning.

Bletchleyite · 10 Oct 2016

That was quick. Good work to Network Rail. I thought this one would be weeks or even months.

ChiefPlanner · 10 Oct 2016

Gareth Marston said:
Barmouth Bridge reopened this morning.

Restricted to class 158's only , apparently - on track machines and all other "traction" restricted for now.

PHILIPE · 10 Oct 2016

Reported 158828 also back out working.

Crossover · 10 Oct 2016

Great bit of work to get things sorted so quickly!

headshot119 · 10 Oct 2016

ChiefPlanner said:
Restricted to class 158's only , apparently - on track machines and all other "traction" restricted for now.

Although not fantastic, the Cambrian doesn't see much other traffic than 158s so it won't adversely affect things in the short term.

Gareth Marston · 11 Oct 2016

Great set of photos of 158 818 being road hauled out of Barmouth and the aftermath of the fire on the bridge on the North Wales Coast Mainlie website

http://www.nwrail.org.uk/nwnews.htm

61653 HTAFC · 11 Oct 2016

ChiefPlanner said:
Restricted to class 158's only , apparently - on track machines and all other "traction" restricted for now.

headshot119 said:
Although not fantastic, the Cambrian doesn't see much other traffic than 158s so it won't adversely affect things in the short term.

How will the leaf-fall season be dealt with, I wonder? Does the 950 have the ability to treat railheads? (Though that is academic as AFAIK it isn't ERTMS fitted anyway).

eMeS · 11 Oct 2016

Perhaps I've missed this, but any suggestions as to what caused the fire?

craigybagel · 11 Oct 2016

61653 HTAFC said:
How will the leaf-fall season be dealt with, I wonder? Does the 950 have the ability to treat railheads? (Though that is academic as AFAIK it isn't ERTMS fitted anyway).

The Cambrian is normally covered by the Network Rail 97s based at Shrewsbury. I'm not sure how far up the coast they normally go though.

Gareth Marston · 11 Oct 2016

craigybagel said:
The Cambrian is normally covered by the Network Rail 97s based at Shrewsbury. I'm not sure how far up the coast they normally go though.

Diagram only runs to Machynlleth and back to Shrewsbury does Talerddig bank and the 80 mph line speed parts but not the lower speed coastal zone.

craigybagel · 11 Oct 2016

Gareth Marston said:
Diagram only runs to Machynlleth and back to Shrewsbury does Talerddig bank and the 80 mph line speed parts but not the lower speed coastal zone.

Thanks, wasn't sure on the details out that way. Given the same set covers north wales as well it'd be a long night if it went up the coast as well. I guess that means there's no locos planned over the bridge anytime soon anyway then?

61653 HTAFC · 11 Oct 2016

craigybagel said:
The Cambrian is normally covered by the Network Rail 97s based at Shrewsbury. I'm not sure how far up the coast they normally go though.

Gareth Marston said:
Diagram only runs to Machynlleth and back to Shrewsbury does Talerddig bank and the 80 mph line speed parts but not the lower speed coastal zone.

That's surprising considering the infrequent service and rural nature, I'd have thought fallen leaves would play havoc with the 158s!

Do they not treat up to Aberystwyth from Mach?

edwin_m · 11 Oct 2016

Not many trees on the Welsh coast?

Gareth Marston · 11 Oct 2016

edwin_m said:
Not many trees on the Welsh coast?

Atlantic oak grows which means it's technically a rainforest due to the level of precipitation however the vegetation near the line certainly is not prodigious.
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craigybagel said:
Thanks, wasn't sure on the details out that way. Given the same set covers north wales as well it'd be a long night if it went up the coast as well. I guess that means there's no locos planned over the bridge anytime soon anyway then?

Does Bidston to Wrexham and Salop Chester Holyhead in previous years

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