asylumxl
Established Member
Given how little legroom there already is in the airline seats, I'm not sure how I feel about seat back tables anymore. If you're anything other than a midget, it can be an uncomfortable experience.
-
Our booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk (powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!
Thameslink/ Class 700 Progress
- Thread starter fgwrich
- Start date
- Status
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R
RailUK Forums
Table back seats won't impact on the leg room. Small tables like on the 365s would do just fine.
true. Its a shame the whole layout can't be changed.
Goldfish62
Established Member
- Joined
- 14 Feb 2010
- Messages
- 10,030
It won't actually be compulsory to pull the table down.
I don't find the legroom any worse than on a 450 or Voyager and there's plenty of room for the tables in them.
westcoaster
Established Member
700019 had a rather heavy graffiti attack at Cricklewood last night, a whole coach done.
spark001uk
Established Member
- Joined
- 20 Aug 2010
- Messages
- 2,325
SpacePhoenix
Established Member
- Joined
- 18 Mar 2014
- Messages
- 5,492
Is there any sort of coating that could be added to them that could at least resist the paint used by the vandals?
spark001uk
Established Member
- Joined
- 20 Aug 2010
- Messages
- 2,325
I'd like the bodyshell to be made live. They wouldn't vandalise it a second time.
D365
Veteran Member
- Joined
- 29 Jun 2012
- Messages
- 11,449
I'd like the bodyshell to be made live. They wouldn't vandalise it a second time.
I wouldn't want to be a passenger on that train...
spark001uk
Established Member
- Joined
- 20 Aug 2010
- Messages
- 2,325
I refer just to when they're out of use.
Come to think of it, can't say I've seen a train spray-painted while there's passengers on it!!
Last edited:
D365
Veteran Member
- Joined
- 29 Jun 2012
- Messages
- 11,449
I refer just to when they're out of use.
Come to think of it, can't say I've seen a train spray-painted while there's passengers on it!!
Maybe not in Europe I suppose. However there are things like residual charge, but since this appears to be fantasy I assume we discount that.
I refer just to when they're out of use.
Come to think of it, can't say I've seen a train spray-painted while there's passengers on it!!
There's your cure. Install dummy passengers!
Goldfish62
Established Member
- Joined
- 14 Feb 2010
- Messages
- 10,030
SWT have been suffering badly, and even the previously mostly untouched LO. It all looks the same style.
Supercoss
Member
- Joined
- 5 Jun 2016
- Messages
- 299
Now moved to Bedford for cleaning, some most excellent high quality digital CCTV of the 'artists' obtained of which the "leave a blank canvas and they will come" plan has worked successfully.
spark001uk
Established Member
- Joined
- 20 Aug 2010
- Messages
- 2,325
Oh right, was this a sting operation then? Seems odd to offer up a brand new 700 for it though if so?
Last edited:
Why not ask the kids to spray over the old logo and spray on the new one?
asylumxl
Established Member
That'd mean communicating with them and negotiating who is going to do the work and when. As we have seen, this is not something the railways do
Mordac
Established Member
Is there a date for when Thameslink will be an all 700 railway?
We should be able to piece that together from information we have been told on this forum and elsewhere and make some reasonable guesses at July / August time.
There are now 11 700/1 and 17 700/0 diagrams, 15 700/1s (700101-700115) and 23 700/0s have seen service (700002/3/5-10/4-21/3/5/7/30/1/6/9) with some of those having then been taken back out of service for testing. On top of that there are something like another 12 700/0s in the UK (700004/12/24/8/9/32/3/7/8/40/5/6). That leaves 11 more 700/0s (700001/11/3/22/6/34/5/41-4) to come in phase 4 before the next 700/1s arrive (although presumably there will be a little overlap).
Deliveries seem to be roughly weekly and introduction of additional workings two every two weeks. Postings elsewhere suggest 33 319s and 15 377/5s remain in service (which must be about 22 diagram pairs in service).
So, if two additional workings are introduced every two weeks from now, 22 weeks takes us to some time in July / August. 23 more 700/0s to enter service seems to be about equal to the numbers of 319s and 377/5s in service (allowing for the double length and no need to have spares of both classes).
I guess that further 700/1s then start replacing 3x377 on London Bridge to Horsham and London Bridge to Brighton services and the London Bridge to Littlehampton / East Grinstead peak services.
Once that is done, presumably they start on removing half of the 365s from Great Northern routes using the next lot of 700/0s (and any 700/0s they can displace from Brighton line workings using the next 700/1s).
BingBong50
Member
When a new 700 is delivered are they still split up with barrier wagons at intervals down the length of the train, or just at front and back?
When they first started to arrive they were split with additional wagons marshalled in the formation as brake runners as the 700 brakes were isolated. We progressed to barriers and runners either end of 8 cars and now it's down to one bogie container flat as coupling adaptors either end as the 700 brakes are now in use on the hauled moves.
yololiverb1
Member
- Joined
- 14 Feb 2016
- Messages
- 25
has anyone got any updated diagrams for the 700s please?
this is so that I can work out roughly where the best place and time is to see them.
thanks in advance
Oliver
this is so that I can work out roughly where the best place and time is to see them.
thanks in advance
Oliver
As has been said on this thread recently, just about anywhere on the main Thameslink route (Bedford to Brighton). I spent less than ten minutes at St Albans City station this afternoon checking up on tickets. In that time I saw 1x12-car 700/1, 1x8-car 700/0 and just one pair of 319s turning round.
great news
Islineclear3_1
Established Member
I wonder if in the not-too distant future, someone will be asking for diagrams for the remaining 319's....
I'm guessing that at least 85 - 90% of Bedford - Brightons are in the hands of 700 and about 5 - 10% of Sutton line services. I think there are 2 Sevenoaks 700 diagrams outside of the peaks and maybe 1 on Saturdays?
I spent a day at Bedford last week. Morning and evening services were all 700s. Arrivals from mid-morning until around 14:30 were 377/5s (all 8-car).
A member of staff told me that the remaining 377/2s had gone back the previous week.
There were just 2 319 diagrams - one 8-car arrival mid morning and a 4-car off the depot shortly after lunch. Not even sure the latter was in service.
It wont resist the paint but there are products on the market which can be applied to the vehicle which will then make it much easier to clean without the use of an abrasive cleaner.
How did they manage this with the permanent security guards?!
A little snooze maybe...
How did they manage this with the permanent security guards?!
A little snooze maybe...
Isn't the DfT proposing drivers protect the exterior of trains?
Diagrams for 377/5s were posted on ukmodernemu yesterday (6 pairs largely working Bedford to Three Bridges / Brighton services). Diagrams for 700s are available elsewhere (11 12-car and 17 8-car diagrams). Everything else on Thameslink (except the daytime London Bridge to Brighton services using Southern 377s) is a 319. If someone had time, it wouldn't be too difficult to work out the 319 diagrams from RTT.
- Status