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I'm not familiar with these lifts...I take it there are stairs...(I'm sure this is a really stupid question) I can understand people having to use this lift.

These are the lifts between the overbridge and the platforms. There is one lift and one down escalator to each platform island. There are no stairs. If you want to leave the platform you have to walk all the way to beyond the buffers or use the lift.
 
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I didn't think those lifts were supposed to be used as an exit from the platform.

If that was the case, there wouldn't be a call button on the concourse or an up button in the lift, and the barriers on the bridge wouldn't be set for exit.

No-one said such language is acceptable to everyone, hence the warning at the start of the programme.

So if the language isn't acceptable to everyone, then rather foolish of this person's employer to permit it, unless they fancy ending up in an employment tribunal one day.
 

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If that was the case, there wouldn't be a call button on the concourse or an up button in the lift, and the barriers on the bridge wouldn't be set for exit.



So if the language isn't acceptable to everyone, then rather foolish of this person's employer to permit it, unless they fancy ending up in an employment tribunal one day.

I'm sure employment tribunals have more important things to worry about than someone being offended by naughty language.
 

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These are the lifts between the overbridge and the platforms. There is one lift and one down escalator to each platform island. There are no stairs. If you want to leave the platform you have to walk all the way to beyond the buffers or use the lift.
There are some stairs to platform 0/1. They are marked for emergency use but people seem to be using them when it is more convenient than taking the excalator/lift.
 
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These are the lifts between the overbridge and the platforms. There is one lift and one down escalator to each platform island. There are no stairs. If you want to leave the platform you have to walk all the way to beyond the buffers or use the lift.

Ah escalator.Game Set and Match.
 

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I'm sure employment tribunals have more important things to worry about than someone being offended by naughty language.
Back in the 1970's are we. I think you will find things have moved on a bit.
 

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Maybe he DID tone his language down ;)

Indeed! That's quite tame compared to what it's sometimes like ... when you're up against it there's a lot of pressure to get trains rolling. Anyone who expects angelic language at all times may want to swap seats with those trying to keep the whole thing hanging together!!
 

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I see on last nights program a member of the station staff became trapped onboard a service train and went for a trip to Grantham and back. Is this a common Occurrence for station staff to take an unexpected trip. I wonder whats the longest distance is before a station staff member can alight and find a return service back to their station.

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It certainly is quite common an occurrence. I imagine Grantham is one further places staff could get overcarried. York would also be possible from Kings Cross and from Euston staff could get taken all the way to Warrington Bank Quay. It's probably pretty rare at major London terminals though where trains are generally in the platform for a lengthy period. I worked at a suburban station where trains were only in the platform a few minutes and it wasn't uncommon for staff to get stuck on board.
 

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I cannot understand channel five wanting the swearing, if 10% of viewers are offended and turn off that must hit revenues.

I cannot imagine anyone turning off because nobody swears.
 

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I cannot understand channel five wanting the swearing, if 10% of viewers are offended and turn off that must hit revenues.

I cannot imagine anyone turning off because nobody swears.

Given their normal programming, I don't see how Channel Five would care.

It really is the Daily Sport of broadcasting.
 

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It does not surprise me that people working in that sort of engineering 'blue collar' environment would swear like that. I'm sure everyone involved has no issue with it.

If the staff at head office were talking to each other in the same manner on camera I'd be more shocked.

Might be stereotyping but stereotypes are often accurate.
 

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Im on one of these programs! TV crew pounced on me and the TPE station manager for York (a cheesy smiling veteran brylcream boy) after my train was stranded oved a broken rail at Skelton Bridge for 2 hours! Disposing of the train I asked him about cleaning the unit for my back working and this peter jackson type dude carrying a mahoosive stage light appeared from nowhere and started filming us!
 

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Were previous series' so full of swearing? My son liked watching these, but now he's a bit older (5) he is easily influenced and the Bounds Green depot guy swearing all the time was a bit off putting.
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Okay, perhaps it wasn't so much about trains to appeal to a young child, but my son loved all the other TV shows. I won't be letting him watch this one, sadly.

I just watched the first episode, via my TiVo recording of Monday's My5 broadcast (channel 152 on Virgin, not the on-demand service). Much to my surprise, having read this thread first, there was no swearing in it whatsoever, despite featuring the Bounds Green segment.

Then I realised that on My5 it was broadcast at 8pm, pre-watershed, so they must have made an edited version. So maybe you could watch that one with your son in future.

On the other hand...

Shame more wasn't made of the issues caused by having a non-standard train in the fleet (the guy at bounds green was told that his proposed set swap wouldn't work due to it being 'the 90').

...I didn't get to see this bit at all; obviously some stuff ends up being cut if it has too much swearing in it.


As for the rest of the programme, I quite enjoyed it, and I share everyone here's amazement at the inadequate and fail-semi-unsafe lift.
 

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Given their normal programming, I don't see how Channel Five would care.

It really is the Daily Sport of broadcasting.

They care about viewing figures, the more who watch the more they can charge for advertising.
 

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I reckon the guy would be hauled into the managers office the day after transmission and have been told that all the 'effing and blindin' didn't give the company a good public image. A bit too late after transmission to warn about language in front of the camera.

Actually, I didn't mind the language so much. I work in an industry where the language is a lot more colourful and descriptive when things go wrong in the middle of the night.
 

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They care about viewing figures, the more who watch the more they can charge for advertising.

I don't think more than a handful of people would switch off the programme because of a few naughty words.

Channel 5 cared so much they kept the swear words in.
 

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I suspect Channels 4 and 5 probably get quite a few more viewers than they lose precisely because of the level of bad language and other adult matters they broadcast.
 

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Shame more wasn't made of the issues caused by having a non-standard train in the fleet (the guy at bounds green was told that his proposed set swap wouldn't work due to it being 'the 90').

Ah yes - I did notice that and explained to my brother, who I was watching it with, the significance of it being "the 90"

Im on one of these programs! TV crew pounced on me and the TPE station manager for York (a cheesy smiling veteran brylcream boy) after my train was stranded oved a broken rail at Skelton Bridge for 2 hours! Disposing of the train I asked him about cleaning the unit for my back working and this peter jackson type dude carrying a mahoosive stage light appeared from nowhere and started filming us!

I'll look out for you in a future episode!
 

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I just watched the first episode, via my TiVo recording of Monday's My5 broadcast (channel 152 on Virgin, not the on-demand service). Much to my surprise, having read this thread first, there was no swearing in it whatsoever, despite featuring the Bounds Green segment.

Then I realised that on My5 it was broadcast at 8pm, pre-watershed, so they must have made an edited version. So maybe you could watch that one with your son in future.

Ah, thanks for that. I'll look out for it.

As for the rest of the programme, I quite enjoyed it, and I share everyone here's amazement at the inadequate and fail-semi-unsafe lift.

Funny that within a couple of days of watching the programme, I see the exact same thing for myself - and then in the second programme, another lift jam.

Doesn't give much confidence in using the lifts does it!
 

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Certainly won't be doing Stannah's reputation much good. :)

Mind you they don't look like "proper" lifts to me, more like the glorified tut that third rate stage illusionists use to make attractive young ladies disappear:
 

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It rest of the content can't have interested people here much considering so far there has been 8 pages discussing people being trapped in a lift and an engineering manager saying the F word.
 

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It rest of the content can't have interested people here much considering so far there has been 8 pages discussing people being trapped in a lift and an engineering manager saying the F word.

I thought the young doctor who stepped in to help the injured lady was lovely, and a great example of sheer British decency. I wondered whether he missed his train as a result. One would hope he would be allowed on a later one, even with an Advance ticket.
 

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I'm enjoying the series so far, plenty of action, the bloke running after the train despite it being far too late in episode 2 made me laugh.
 

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Well I eventually caught up with things by My5 because of being away. Whether they edited things for that release, or not, the language was tame. Walk down many streets and you will be assailed by worse.

I enjoyed the two episodes so far.

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It rest of the content can't have interested people here much considering so far there has been 8 pages discussing people being trapped in a lift and an engineering manager saying the F word.
There's not that much so far to talk about, but how many shows have been recorded with EC/VTEC and King's Cross staff now?

There's a lot of padding, as is the norm these days. Coming up, before the break, an introduction that's over a minute of screen time in itself etc.

There have been some good things (man running after train as mentioned, member of staff whisked off on a train, the issue getting a train back into service and the doctor etc) but I do wonder what else will come up that isn't going to come over as rather mundane.

I like these shows but do wonder why they've suddenly become so popular, although I suspect Virgin is very keen for the publicity (swearing or not!) and would willingly give access to its staff.

It appears that First, GTR and Arriva/DB weren't perhaps so forthcoming.
 
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There's a lot of padding, as is the norm these days. Coming up, before the break, an introduction that's over a minute of screen time in itself etc.

Shows have had a lot of padding for years though the padding is normally adverts. Take Star Trek TNG as an example, on BBC was about 45mins long but on any TV channel with adverts it's an hour long
 

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The PTI incident seemed to be over fairly quickly.

And CSAs ending up on trains is common if they don't tell anyone what they are doing.
 
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