Sack that. If the none British product is better I will buy it.
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Sack that. If the none British product is better I will buy it.
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Like yourself, I will always go for the best quality product I can afford, irrespective of what the brand is. I am loyal to specific brands as some posters will know, but sometimes I feel as much as I like a specific brand and want to buy something they have made, there are other companies who offer products with superior quality or better value for money than what my preferred brand is offering.
Not sure, but clearly as a Nigerian woman it's all the EU's fault :roll:
Every time I visit a hospital I thank my lucky stars I live in the UK, where the only bill I get is £3 for the car park.
Define better. Britain still has a small specialist motor industry, and none of its products are bettered in their category (Morgan, Caterham, McLaren). UK car makers still know how to make a good car, whether it be a Bentley in Crewe or a Vauxhall at Ellesmere Port. The reason Britain no longer has a UK owned volume car producer is a long story, but has nothing to do with a lack of fine engineering design or shop floor skill.
I recently bought a cooker. The best in their price bracket were Stove (middle market - made on Merseyside) and Esse (upmarket - made at Barnoldswick, Lancashire). The same goes for furniture, clothes and numerous other products. I could have bought a French Lacanche or Swedish Aga, but in my judgement the UK product was as good or better. Exposure to European products and their marketing has predisposed Brits to believe others do it better, creating psychological monopolies (German cars) and hamstringing UK designed and built goods.
Note 'encouraged' not 'required'.
It also has b****** all to do with being a member of the EU. The deaths of the various UK marques were entirely self-inflicted.
As you well know, I didn't say UK car manufacturers disappeared through membership of the EU - most takeovers predated our membership. The point is about marketing and the public perception of European as better. Sometimes it is, often it isn't. Brexit offers the opportunity for renewed appreciation of domestic goods if the marketing is right. You'll be long gone to your Scotpean utopia so the issue won't affect you.
In the 1970s and early 1980s UK-built cars were, for the most part, inferior to their European and Japanese competitor's products.
If you can't play the ball, play the man?
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Yes most were, but as I said the history is long and complex, and insists we ignore all UK car production up to the 1970s and since the 1980s. Part of that complexity involves a world war which destroyed most German production facilities and turned ours over to the non-car based war effort. After the war a British officer was tasked with revitalising VW to give the Germans peace time employment and avoid re-Nazification. Restructuring was done on the latest engineering equipment while British manufacturing methods were firmly based in pre-war practice and machinery, for instance some Leyland engines in the 1970s were little changed from 1920s design.
Another factor was the lack of domestic availability as most cars were exported for overseas currency until the late 1950s. Then there's a complacent management and recalcitrant workforce locked in a race to the bottom, each in search of their utopia while their companies went to hell in a handcart. I used to work with a chap whose best pal was a forman in one of our upmarket car marques. He said standards were always maintained by an experienced old hand chalking up any discrepancy so the engine or part could be returned to the line for correction. In the darkest days of the 70s the only change was the employment of a lad to wash off his chalk marks instead of putting the part back into the line. All of these things and others contributed to the death of volume British owned car manufacture. That doesn't mean such practice is representative historically or contemporaneously.
As for playing the man, I don't see it given your continued support for a non-UK Eurozone Scotland. If you get your wish UK production will be none of your problem or business.
Point me to one post where I have supported Scottish independence. I am very much still undecided one way or the other.
Point me to one explicitly against Scottish independence.
As I said, I am very much undecided on the matter.
You're the one who claims I have said something that I don't remember saying so it's up to you to remind me of where I said it.
No it isn't. I'd invite anyone who cared (!) to read your contributions to this thread and the Scottish independence one and make their own minds up on where you stand based on what you said. Highlighting any single post will lead to your usual where, what, who, why denial routine.
You may indeed have not made your mind up, I can only comment on your posts regarding the topic.
It is. If you accuse you need to support that accusation.
I'm a screen reader, not a mind reader. What you've written suggests a Europhile who would like Scotland to remain in the EU if the rest of the UK leaves. If that isn't your opinion please state what it is so we don't have to guess.
First off, that is wildy different to what you said:
And secondly, the only comments I've made one way or the other on the matter of Scottish independence is that it's only right that it be back on the table and that I've not yet been able to make a decision one way or the other on the matter. Unlike some posters, I'm not driven by ideology.
Edit: On the wider EU question, yes I would have been happier had the referendum vote been in favour of remaining in the EU.
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My bold. Was that a genuine typo or does it have an ulterior meaning?
I'm glad that has been cleared up. It will make it easier to contextualise your future posts on the subject.
Perhaps a object lesson that it's better to ask a question than make an assumption.
The lesson is what people say is not what they think. Or some people argue for argument's sake.
Then I repeat my earlier request - show me the posts in which I have expressed a desire for Scottish independence and I'll correct them.
Snore.
Which I'll take as "I can't find any." If you do happen to find one, please let me know so that I can correct it.
kthxbia
I note the statement from Ryanair today as well in a similar vein.
You would have to wonder if the EU Open skies policy will apply to the UK after March 2019......maybe the era of cheap flights to the EU from UK will be coming to an end.
I believe it would have to form part of the negotiation and wouldn't automatically continue to apply.
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I wonder what the business impact would be if it didnt apply.....
Is there any knockon with UK-US flight agreements?
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