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backontrack · 29 Apr 2017

One down already. And Vadaine Oliver just missed an open goal from two or three yards out. He hit it over.

Woking are leading, but right now that's not relevant.

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SS4 · 29 Apr 2017

61653 HTAFC said:
While part of me hopes Newcastle are punished by a points deduction, barring from promotion, or relegation (because it would likely see us promoted in their place), I'd rather win promotion on merit. Though in the Swindon case it was the losing play-off finalists (Sunderland) who were promoted rather than the 3rd-placed team (ironically, Newcastle United).

A points deduction which did not stop them getting promoted/relegated would be useless. Sure they may lose money from league placing but that's really the same as a fine. Given the amount of time that HMRC will take to investigate it won't affect this season anyway but I'm sure they'll get away with a fine which is basically a pittance. Something meaningful (for Newcastle) would be to fine them the financial gain from promotion; they can play in the PL and have 0 points like everyone else but they don't financially gain.

Speaking of Huddersfield you'd better not screw up and fail to win away at blues :lol:

MidnightFlyer · 29 Apr 2017

backontrack said:
Before kick-off at 12:20pm I would be thankful if we could hold a brief moment of silence for York City F.C.

We will fight to the end.

For we are the Minstermen.

Come on City.

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yorkie · 29 Apr 2017

It's all Jackie McNamara's fault.
https://twitter.com/mcmillan1968/status/858325989931319298

Andy McMillan said:
Only one reason I left Ian! McNamara is a joke, shouldn't be anywhere near a football club #joke

https://twitter.com/billyycfc/status/858321196651347968

Richard Cresswell said:
Jackie Mc has not only ruined a fantastic club but he is also responsible for many other things that have happened behind the scenes... He is the reason this great club is where it is today!!

SS4 · 29 Apr 2017

SS4 said:
Speaking of Huddersfield you'd better not screw up and fail to win away at blues

Damn it Huddersfield

96tommy · 29 Apr 2017

York 2-2 Forest Green Rovers

I have seen York through numerous promotions (promotion) and relegations but today marks the lowest of the low.

Within 6 minutes we were down a goal despite a very postive start where long throw specialist Muggleton hit the crossbar twice from his own throws. Parkin got 1 back and we were behind again within a minute.

Despite getting back again to 2-2 a point looked like it would keep us safe until Guiseley scored in the dying seconds of their game that secured our relegation to the Conference North.

The deafening silence at the end was one I won't forget.

McGill and McNamara deserve the majority of the blame. Mills can't be excluded but McGill's managerial appointment skills and McNamara's lack of ability to manage a team has ultimately cost us what could prove to be a very costly relegation.

backontrack · 29 Apr 2017

yorkie said:
It's all Jackie McNamara's fault.
https://twitter.com/mcmillan1968/status/858325989931319298

https://twitter.com/billyycfc/status/858321196651347968

Jackie Sacknamara and Jason McGill are both to blame. Today is a sad, sad day. :cry:

bb21 · 29 Apr 2017

96tommy said:
York 2-2 Forest Green Rovers

I have seen York through numerous promotions (promotion) and relegations but today marks the lowest of the low.

Within 6 minutes we were down a goal despite a very postive start where long throw specialist Muggleton hit the crossbar twice from his own throws. Parkin got 1 back and we were behind again within a minute.

Despite getting back again to 2-2 a point looked like it would keep us safe until Guiseley scored in the dying seconds of their game that secured our relegation to the Conference North.

The deafening silence at the end was one I won't forget.

McGill and McNamara deserve the majority of the blame. Mills can't be excluded but McGill's managerial appointment skills and McNamara's lack of ability to manage a team has ultimately cost us what could prove to be a very costly relegation.

York aren't doing very well so you switched your allegiance to Newcastle?

96tommy · 29 Apr 2017

bb21 said:
York aren't doing very well so you switched your allegiance to Newcastle?

No, supported both my whole life. More York (my local club) , follow Newcastle through my family who are all Geordies and toon supporters.

richw · 29 Apr 2017

Exeter city did Plymouth Argyle a favour today, and beat Doncaster, putting Argyle top with 1 game to go. Argyle were 8 points behind Doncaster with 4 games to go!
It also secured Exeter a play off place, having been bottom of the league in November!

Razor1967 · 29 Apr 2017

Gutted about City today, how many other teams at the bottom seem to start winning as soon as the xxxx hits the fan.

Guiseley scoring in the last minute to send City down just about sums our season up. However the league table doesn't lie and we have drawn far too many games and did not have the killer touch in front of goal. Thank God for Jon Parkin or our season would have been even more of an embarrassment.

Am still going to Wembley to see the Trophy final but am guessing the crowd will be woeful now.

Other forums are statling we could be saved if Leyton Orient go bust, but to be honest as a true footie fan I would not like to see that happen.

Let's hope we can keep/attract some decent players to get straight back up next year.

roversfan2001 · 30 Apr 2017

Really tight at the bottom end of the Championship now. Wigan now relegated (and confirmed to be 23rd too after wins for teams above them). Can't say I'm sorry after they laughed when they sent us down 5 years ago - this is their third relegation since! :lol:

Us and Forest both on 48 points with Forest out of the drop zone on goal difference. Birmingham 2 points ahead after Huddersfield made 10 changes and rolled over (against EFL rules but everyone knows the league don't have the guts to do anything). No doubt with Sky being Sky the 2 games they choose to televise next Sunday will be the Brighton and Newcastle games rather than the Birmingham and Rovers games - money talks far too much - Birmingham have sold out their allocation at Bristol City and it is extremely difficult for Rovers fans to make it to Brentford without staying overnight on the Saturday.

Kite159 · 30 Apr 2017

Playoffs places are all but confirmed. Unless Leeds wins and Fulham losses with heavy results

backontrack · 30 Apr 2017

Poor Leeds!

Today, I am a Manchester United supporter...something I'd never thought I'd say. But there you are. Come on José...does 10-0 appeal to you? :lol:

bb21 · 30 Apr 2017

Indeed, poor Leeds. :lol:

Good job they came back to 3-3 yesterday. Had Norwich won the fun would have stopped.

SS4 · 30 Apr 2017

roversfan2001 said:
Really tight at the bottom end of the Championship now. Wigan now relegated (and confirmed to be 23rd too after wins for teams above them). Can't say I'm sorry after they laughed when they sent us down 5 years ago - this is their third relegation since!

Us and Forest both on 48 points with Forest out of the drop zone on goal difference. Birmingham 2 points ahead after Huddersfield made 10 changes and rolled over (against EFL rules but everyone knows the league don't have the guts to do anything). No doubt with Sky being Sky the 2 games they choose to televise next Sunday will be the Brighton and Newcastle games rather than the Birmingham and Rovers games - money talks far too much - Birmingham have sold out their allocation at Bristol City and it is extremely difficult for Rovers fans to make it to Brentford without staying overnight on the Saturday.

I'm surprised that Sky are even bothering to televise championship football - they couldn't be bothered to show the derby last week after all

61653 HTAFC · 30 Apr 2017

roversfan2001 said:
Really tight at the bottom end of the Championship now. Wigan now relegated (and confirmed to be 23rd too after wins for teams above them). Can't say I'm sorry after they laughed when they sent us down 5 years ago - this is their third relegation since!

Us and Forest both on 48 points with Forest out of the drop zone on goal difference. Birmingham 2 points ahead after Huddersfield made 10 changes and rolled over (against EFL rules but everyone knows the league don't have the guts to do anything). No doubt with Sky being Sky the 2 games they choose to televise next Sunday will be the Brighton and Newcastle games rather than the Birmingham and Rovers games - money talks far too much - Birmingham have sold out their allocation at Bristol City and it is extremely difficult for Rovers fans to make it to Brentford without staying overnight on the Saturday.

I agree our reserves were awful yesterday, the same reserves that drew with Manchester City! I do have an issue with rules about weakened sides though. In particular when Blackpool were fined by the PL over fielding a "weakened team" that was made up of members of the 25-man squad mandated by... that's right, the Premier League!

If you end up relegated it won't be David Wagner's fault though, it'll be either Owen Coyle or Venky's who are responsible.

backontrack · 30 Apr 2017

bb21 said:
Indeed, poor Leeds.

Good job they came back to 3-3 yesterday. Had Norwich won the fun would have stopped.

I really don't get the Leeds hate.

They had truly terrible fans during the 70s and 80s - but now there's a good deal of Leeds supporters who weren't even alive then. The hooliganism and dirty play has improved massively since then. And their big derbies - like with Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool - haven't been played in a long time.

Leeds used to be an awful club with fascist, racist fans. But that's gone now, and if you're a young kid growing up in Armley or Roundhay then who are you going to support? Leeds is the largest city in England with only one club. Hating the club isn't good for the city.

If the club gets promoted back to the Premier League and the fans are awful, then fine, you're allowed to hate them. But holding historic grudges without a proper reason only does harm to both sides. Surely it would be better to live and let live?

And anyway, what about Millwall?

bb21 · 30 Apr 2017

96tommy said:
No, supported both my whole life. More York (my local club) , follow Newcastle through my family who are all Geordies and toon supporters.

True supporters do not have divided loyalty.

bb21 · 30 Apr 2017

backontrack said:
I really don't get the Leeds hate.

Because Leeds scum supporters never wrecked your town and gave you nightmares as kids, and the club had no decency to even apologise for such behaviour. I have nothing but contempt for that club.

You will understand the feeling after only one such instance.

Leeds are the only club I will not feel sorry for if they went out of business. I may feel sympathy for supporters who tried hard to get away from the terrible images of the past, but not the club.

61653 HTAFC · 30 Apr 2017

bb21 said:
Because Leeds scum supporters never wrecked your town and gave you nightmares as kids, and the club had no decency to even apologise for such behaviour. I have nothing but contempt for that club.

You will understand the feeling after only one such instance.

Leeds are the only club I will not feel sorry for if they went out of business. I may feel sympathy for supporters who tried hard to get away from the terrible images of the past, but not the club.

I'd be disappointed if Leeds went out of business... 6 guaranteed points down the pan!

J-2739 · 30 Apr 2017

Leeds supporters at my school are highly irritating, and have the most obnoxious chants of all time.

When I probably start going to matches next season, I'll put my support for Barnsley F.C..

bb21 said:
Because Leeds scum supporters never wrecked your town and gave you nightmares as kids, and the club had no decency to even apologise for such behaviour. I have nothing but contempt for that club.

You will understand the feeling after only one such instance.

Leeds are the only club I will not feel sorry for if they went out of business. I may feel sympathy for supporters who tried hard to get away from the terrible images of the past, but not the club.

They used to be one of the most hated clubs in England, and after seeing the fight at the Barnsley vs Leeds match, I'm not surprised.

I'll respect their fans, but don't agree with them.

familyguy99 · 30 Apr 2017

AFC Wimbledon 0-0 Oldham

Last match of season for Oldham ended up goalless draw but saw our on loan Middlesbrough goalkeeper Conner Ripley keep his 18 clean sheet for us and equal record for many clean sheet in season for Oldham goalkeeper.

Antman · 30 Apr 2017

backontrack said:
I really don't get the Leeds hate.
They had truly terrible fans during the 70s and 80s - but now there's a good deal of Leeds supporters who weren't even alive then. The hooliganism and dirty play has improved massively since then. And their big derbies - like with Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool - haven't been played in a long time.

Leeds used to be an awful club with fascist, racist fans. But that's gone now, and if you're a young kid growing up in Armley or Roundhay then who are you going to support? Leeds is the largest city in England with only one club. Hating the club isn't good for the city.

If the club gets promoted back to the Premier League and the fans are awful, then fine, you're allowed to hate them. But holding historic grudges without a proper reason only does harm to both sides. Surely it would be better to live and let live?

Besides, Millwall are worse.

Me neither, growing up in the 70s they were the team everyone loved to hate, probably a bit of jealousy, but all these years later??

The Leeds fans I've met have generally been nice enough, obviously most clubs have their share of neds!

bb21 · 30 Apr 2017

jbc said:
Me neither, growing up in the 70s they were the team everyone loved to hate, probably a bit of jealousy, but all these years later??

The Leeds fans I've met have generally been nice enough, obviously most clubs have their share of neds!

Whether one should hate Leeds really depends on one's perspective, and experiences with the club.

Hating the club is also a very different thing to hating their fans.

Many people hate Millwall and their crowd due to the troubles they caused, but I have never personally experienced any unpleasantries with Millwall fans despite us sharing many years in the same division, so I cannot bring myself to hate anything Millwall-related.

Jealousy is the last thing I feel about Leeds, ever, and most certainly not right now. :lol:

61653 HTAFC · 1 May 2017

My thoughts on Leeds...

Growing up, Leeds were in the top flight mostly, while we (and Bradford City) were usually in the 3rd. As a result, Bradford was the local derby to look for each summer when the fixtures came out and Leeds didn't get a second thought. In the past decade or so this has changed, with us being alongside Leeds more often than not- so that has become the derby we Town fans look for. With Bradford the banter was always light-hearted for the most part but with Leeds there's often an undercurrent of malice. Bradford supporters I've spoken to feel the same way, and Leeds supporters really endeared themselves to Bradfordians by singing songs about the Valley Parade fire*. There's an arrogance too with Leeds, claiming they don't care about us, that Manchester United are their real rivals, yet their highest crowds each season recently have been when Huddersfield Town take a trip down the A62- and their Supporters Club have just voted David Wagner their "Villain of the Season"! Their off-the-field issues of recent times have been highly entertaining though!

*=see also Munich songs and Hillsborough songs for United and Liverpool respectively. Admittedly one of our supporters thought it would be funny to wave a Turkish flag this year after the tragic and horrific murder of 2 Leeds fans in Istanbul a few years ago- spoiler alert, it wasn't funny. Then again, Leeds fans do love to claim offense over that unfortunate episode, such as when Huddersfield Town had a one-off kit to raise money for the Yorkshire Air Ambulance- this kit was red and yellow to match the air ambulance livery, which by coincidence is also the home colours of Galatasaray. Cue Leeds supporters trying to make out that this was deliberate, I hope none of them ever need the air ambulance in that case...

Of course, the majority of Leeds fans will be ordinary folk just supporting their team just like us, and I have no problem with that. The issue is the minority that act up (a bigger minority than many other clubs, it seems) and the general sense of entitlement that comes with big city teams, that they have a divine right to win games and competitions.

Antman · 1 May 2017

bb21 said:
Whether one should hate Leeds really depends on one's perspective, and experiences with the club.

Hating the club is also a very different thing to hating their fans.

Many people hate Millwall and their crowd due to the troubles they caused, but I have never personally experienced any unpleasantries with Millwall fans despite us sharing many years in the same division, so I cannot bring myself to hate anything Millwall-related.

Jealousy is the last thing I feel about Leeds, ever, and most certainly not right now.

I meant back in the 70s there was no doubt a bit of jealousy when Leeds were a top club, there's not much to be jealous about these days

!

Obviously songs about the Bradford fire are disgusting, equally abhorrent are chants from other so called fans mocking the Leeds fans who were murdered in Turkey.

Anyway it looks like another season in the championship for them, it would take an amazing turn of events to pip Fulham to the last play off place now.

Tetchytyke · 1 May 2017

bb21 said:
Leeds are the only club I will not feel sorry for if they went out of business. I may feel sympathy for supporters who tried hard to get away from the terrible images of the past, but not the club.

The hooligan element has not left Leeds. They're still the same Henri Lloyd-clad thugs that they were in the 80s when they set fire to the chip van when we were at Odsal after the fire.

61653 HTAFC said:
With Bradford the banter was always light-hearted for the most part but with Leeds there's often an undercurrent of malice. Bradford supporters I've spoken to feel the same way, and Leeds supporters really endeared themselves to Bradfordians by singing songs about the Valley Parade fire*.

I don't know so much, Huddersfield fans sing plenty of songs about the fire, and the racist abuse Chris Kamara got from you lot when he managed us was something else.

Kevin Gray was really the big catalyst, I can't believe that your fans defend that thuggy little *@!!!.

As for Newcastle, let's see what comes out of the tax investigation. I bet it'll be nothing that every other team in the Premier League isn't also doing: "image rights" payments are the biggest swizz going. HMRC don't have a great track record of knowing what they're talking about legally though: don't forget they even managed to lose their court case against Sevco.

507021 · 1 May 2017

Well that was boring, but at least it was livened up by an overhead goal from Emre Can to give Liverpool a much needed win.

backontrack · 2 May 2017

bb21 said:
Because Leeds scum supporters never wrecked your town and gave you nightmares as kids, and the club had no decency to even apologise for such behaviour.

F***.

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