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c2c units now appearing with small: "part of Trenitalia UK, a company of the FS Group" labels on the outside of each car.

(357s having the c2c logo moved to the centre of the car too, as 387s and having above labels added)
 
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Just spotted a GWR Class 387 unit pass Watford operating a 5Z service from Bletchley T&R.S.M.D. to Selhurst T&R.S.M.D. - I'm struggling to understand why this move would occur? What's a GWR unit doing down there? I know they occasionally test them to Brighton, but this is based from Wembley EFOC... Any ideas?
 

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Just spotted a GWR Class 387 unit pass Watford operating a 5Z service from Bletchley T&R.S.M.D. to Selhurst T&R.S.M.D. - I'm struggling to understand why this move would occur? What's a GWR unit doing down there? I know they occasionally test them to Brighton, but this is based from Wembley EFOC... Any ideas?

Wembley is a normal staging point on the test running, has been since they started with the first 387/1s. AC runs are often from Bletchley to Crewe via a reversal at Wembley in both directions, so a round trip often uses four separate Train IDs.

Visits to Selhurst are also not unusual during the test phase. It may just be that it has a specific item of test equipment and suitable Bombardier outbased staff, and that Bombardier have maintained the same access arrangement as they had for the earlier members of the class.

I doubt there is anything especially significant about the move. They don't just 'occasionally' test them to Brighton, they all do the same DC mileage as a proportion of the overall testing mileage.

Here's today's moves, showing the normal sort of pattern:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/advanced/XBQ/2017/05/30/0600-2000?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt

What you saw appears to be an STP Bletchley to Selhurst via Wembley EFOC. Not unusual AFAICS.
 
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Just spotted a GWR Class 387 unit pass Watford operating a 5Z service from Bletchley T&R.S.M.D. to Selhurst T&R.S.M.D. - I'm struggling to understand why this move would occur? What's a GWR unit doing down there? I know they occasionally test them to Brighton, but this is based from Wembley EFOC... Any ideas?

Mileage Accumulation as it always is. Typical path is Bletchley - Wembley - Crewe - Wembley Bletchley or Bletchley - Brighton - Bletchley; but there isn't always the capacity for either. Today they'll have to make do with a Bletchley - Selhurst and return trip.

387 Comissioning is based out of Bletchley, not Wembley.
 

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Don't know if covered already, couldn't find anything, but just noticed the GatEx 387s are all fitted with pans even though they'll probably never be needed. Is this because DV is the only spec they come in, much the same as the GWR 387s have shoes?
 

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Don't know if covered already, couldn't find anything, but just noticed the GatEx 387s are all fitted with pans even though they'll probably never be needed. Is this because DV is the only spec they come in, much the same as the GWR 387s have shoes?

It probably just made sense to the ROSO or GTR or both to have the whole GTR Class 387 fleet as dual voltage and therefore technically identical
 

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Don't know if covered already, couldn't find anything, but just noticed the GatEx 387s are all fitted with pans even though they'll probably never be needed. Is this because DV is the only spec they come in, much the same as the GWR 387s have shoes?

They already have been needed, when the GX 387s were temporarily used on Thameslink services.
 

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So I came out on a rover today and changed my plans so I was at pad for the 1642 Maidenhead 387. Cancelled. Just my luck! Train crew issue. I wonder does anyone know is it likely to be a whole diagram go down, or just the one train? I know the 1609 ran cos it passed me earlier.
 

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So I came out on a rover today and changed my plans so I was at pad for the 1642 Maidenhead 387. Cancelled. Just my luck! Train crew issue. I wonder does anyone know is it likely to be a whole diagram go down, or just the one train? I know the 1609 ran cos it passed me earlier.

Same driver brings set off of West Ealing; works 1642 down; empties back to PAD; 1842 down then empties back to West Ealing. Likely all will be cancelled as set will probably still be on West Ealing.

In other news first 8 car has moved to Maidenhead Carriage Sidings this afternoon. No unit numbers known but seen languishing at the far end of Number 2 road.
 
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Anyone notice there is a sign on the outside of the train advising passengers not to ride on the outside of it. Are they anticipating they get that full
 

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Anyone notice there is a sign on the outside of the train advising passengers not to ride on the outside of it. Are they anticipating they get that full

IIRC they are a standard Electrostar warning sticker. (At least on SN that I've also seen.) People were allegedly trying to train surf on the steps below the front windows.
 
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Same driver brings set off of West Ealing; works 1642 down; empties back to PAD; 1842 down then empties back to West Ealing. Likely all will be cancelled as set will probably still be on West Ealing.

In other news first 8 car has moved to Maidenhead Carriage Sidings this afternoon. No unit numbers known but seen languishing at the far end of Number 2 road.

OK thanks. I should be OK for the 1936 fast then.

Just viewed the pair at mai, they are 150 and 151 (pic below)
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OK thanks. I should be OK for the 1936 fast then.

Just viewed the pair at mai, they are 150 and 151 (pic below)
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Told you they were done. Just passed the Sidings now and seen them. Have been away in Plymouth for a few days so a lot has happened whilst I've been away!
 

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Told you they were done. Just passed the Sidings now and seen them. Have been away in Plymouth for a few days so a lot has happened whilst I've been away!

They're still not done. Walking route isn't finished and they had to be shoved there with a 57. They will be "done" in July as previously advised.
 

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As JN114 says, I've had the other 5 roads closed today for walkway works etc.
 

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Just spotted a GWR Class 387 unit pass Watford operating a 5Z service from Bletchley T&R.S.M.D. to Selhurst T&R.S.M.D. - I'm struggling to understand why this move would occur? What's a GWR unit doing down there? I know they occasionally test them to Brighton, but this is based from Wembley EFOC... Any ideas?

I saw the same train at Imperial Wharf later that same morning.
 

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Six units in Maidenhead CS now, across three roads. Sorry didn't get numbers. Although I know 150 and 51 were the first in.
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I took a day-trip to Crewe today, with the intention of visiting the Heritage Centre, only to realise it's not open on weekdays :P Still got a few pics of APT, so not a complete loss. Anyways, as I got back to the station at around 1pm, I spotted two new GWR 387s parked up on platform 7.

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They were hauled out of the station around 2pm en route to Wembley, according to RTT:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P91375/2017/06/15/advanced
 

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They move under their own power (as part of their AC testing) do they not?
 

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They move under their own power (as part of their AC testing) do they not?

That's what I thought, but he said 'hauled', as concurred in the rtt entry (electric loco). My only thought was a suitable driver for the journey not being 387 trained, hence the haulage?
 

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Did you see what was hauling them by any chance?

I'm afraid not. By the time I spotted they had left the station, they were too far down the line to see what was hauling them. I caught the 1422 Virgin service back to Euston, which I was hoping would catch them up by the time we got to Nuneaton or Rugby (RTT said it was supposed to stop at Rugby for 12-15 mins). Unfortunately, it ran straight through without stopping, so by the time we got to Rugby, it was already well down the Northampton branch line :(
 

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Looking through the railcam stills archive, it seems that they moved under their own power - nothing hauling them. Also worth noting that the timing load is "325 tonnes" which is also used for Class 325 services - presumably related?
 

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That's fair enough then. I was wondering if one of the two 92s I saw outside of the station as I came into Crewe this morning (a CS 92 and a GBRf 92) was hauling them to Wembley. But as your railcam still shows, that's certainly not the case :P
 

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That's fair enough then. I was wondering if one of the two 92s I saw outside of the station as I came into Crewe this morning (a CS 92 and a GBRf 92) was hauling them to Wembley. But as your railcam still shows, that's certainly not the case :P

A 92 hauling a GWR 387? That's literally my dream come true! Will never happen, the Class 387 test runs are operated by Freightliner I believe... And of course, the intention as a test is for them to move under their own power. One of many times a GWR 387 has visited Crewe, so not rare at all. Last time I was there, they were testing the SDO of the Gatwick Express 387's :

https://flic.kr/p/HzFfwX

That tells you how long it's been since I've been up to Crewe!
 

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And back to 387's now! Went passed Maidenhead Sidings today on my way home from work and saw 387138, 387137 and 387151 in the sidings. Getting quickly populated in there!
 

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So what can be done with all the many 387 arrivals until further wires go live?
 

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Last week I observed a class 37 pulling a pair of 387s into Reading depot whilst it was waiting for a path into Reading depot...
Has anybody else noticed the GWR 387s have a third rail pick up as well?
 
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