http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8025935.stm 
It's somewhere along Barlow Moor Road but it's not clear where - it's a long road!
It's somewhere along Barlow Moor Road but it's not clear where - it's a long road!
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Geezertronic
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I wonder if people were expecting the "War of the Worlds" aliens to appear and zap them all 
spoony
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Some long lost miners digging their way out!
Lesjordans
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no wonder people moan about road tax!
90019
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It's somewhere along Barlow Moor Road but it's not clear where - it's a long road!
That could have been very nasty if a vehicle had been driving over it when it collapsed.
Looks like an old mine shaft or something like that.
Lesjordans
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I think you mean Vehicle Exise Duty
haha my mistake!
Ridiculous though! £120 and still the roads are full of potholes, can't believe its even £120 for a 1.1 c2
Geezertronic
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devon_metro
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Even if you don't use the West Coast Mainline, you still contribute towards it.
whoshotjimmi
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I think you mean Vehicle Exise Duty
No. He means Vehicle Excise Duty.
And, spare a thought. Mine is now £300 a year.
Mintona
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What the hell do you drive?!
There was, the bus that caused it.
Just because you don't drive, doesn't mean you don't pay vehicle related duty. Travel by bus? You'll pay duty on fuel (if they have to) and vehicle excise duty through your ticket price.
And if you travel by Stagecoach buses (or trains) you also contribute toward making Scotland independent and promoting homophobia (BBC article).
But surely there's a difference between accepting homosexuality and actively promoting it in school?
As it happens, I do support an independant Scotland, and I'm against homosexuality.
But remember, many of us don't have a choice of which bus company we use. Round here, it's Stagecoach, Stagecoach, Stagecoach (3 separate regions), or nothing.
As it happens, I do support an independant Scotland, and I'm against homosexuality.
But remember, many of us don't have a choice of which bus company we use. Round here, it's Stagecoach, Stagecoach, Stagecoach (3 separate regions), or nothing.
43106
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I remember Soutar on the panel of BBC's "Question Time", about 3 or 4 years ago where he spouted forth about the evil that was homosexuality. A woman in the audience got the opportunity to say something. She absolutely laid into Soutar - it was brilliant to watch! She reduced him to absolute silence. Anything that Soutar said in his own defence was swiftly and mercilessly ripped to shreds by this woman.
If someone could find a video of this, it should be put as a 'sticky' on this forum!
Me? Vindictive? YES!
43021HST
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Two months ago I was reading in a railway magazine about another Road bridge over a railway that had collapsed.
90019
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That was a bridge collapsing, not a hole opening up in a road. They're not really the same thing.
Phoenix
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As a geologist I see this sort of thing quite alot and believe me that's nothing compared to when the foundations of a house do that and ground floor becomes the basement.
In these cases it usually down to poor investigation before the road was laid or a sudden increase in groundwater beneath the tarmac which compacts the underlying ground.
Please correct me if im wrong.
In these cases it usually down to poor investigation before the road was laid or a sudden increase in groundwater beneath the tarmac which compacts the underlying ground.
Please correct me if im wrong.
Death
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Hmm...I'm not sure if I'll accept one executive (Even if he's the group owner) donating to the SNP as representative of the views of everyone in that group.
Down here in the Aldershot area (Served entirely by Stagecoach) there are a lot of drivers over at Aldershot bus garage, and basic law of averages suggests that at least a few of them must be gay, lesbian or bisexual...And I bet they're still happy to work for Stagecoach!
(Besides, if Stagecoach - Or any other company for that matter - Were to try sacking people for being something other than heterosexual, they'd be pulling a reet ton o' bricks down on their heads with regard to discrimination laws!
hock:)There is, there is...In my own words (Although others may beg to differ, and YMMV):
- Accepting homosexuality means taking a few minutes to learn what exactly it is, how it affects those who are homosexual with regard to differences encountered in everyday life, not being ignorant or hateful of it unless it threatens ye directly, and trying to extend some degree of tolerance to those whom ye know to be homosexual or bisexual.
. - Actively promoting homosexuality (As I interperet the expression) is pretty much the act of bringing up the subject of homosexuality - Whether it's contextually appropriate or not - And going into far too great a level of detail on the subject itself, everything involved with it, and saying that it's very good because it's an everyday thing...A practice that might well misinform people that it's preferable to be homosexual, even though it's no better or worse than being heterosexual!
Ditto for us here - Stagecoach Buses run most of the local bus routes, and Stagecoach (SWT) run all passenger services on two of the three rail lines that pass through this area. But even though I'm perfectly accepting of homosexuality (And have many friends who are gay) it's not going to stop me using Stagecoach services at all.
I've never seen any instances of heterosexuality being promoted, but I do wonder whether gay pride marches have simply turned into a showcase of homosexuality...Insted of being a front in the fight against homophobia and ignorance that they were originally intended to be. In my personal view though - Because sexual orientation is determined biologically and can't be changed at will (Well, can't be changed at all I believe) - There should not be any form of emphesis or preference placed upon one or the other by society, and certainly no promotion of a certain sexual orientation!
hock:Personally, I think that everyone should be allowed to find themselves. Once someone becomes aware of their carnal capabilities and finds an attraction to one gender or the other (Or both) they should be allowed to feel comfortable with what they are and whatever gender they're attracted to. 8)
Just my two Dollars worth, whilst I'm drifting around aimlessly and being in both a tired yet rather contemplative mood this morning...
You're trying to make out that an independent Scotland is as evil as homophobia?
Anyway, it's his money which he's earned, and he has the right to do with it as he pleases. If an NHS nurse supported the same causes, you could equally argue that being a taxpayer supports those causes. I don't agree with his homophobic viewpoint, but why should I stop using buses because the boss has this opinion? I bet several business owners up and down the UK will have contributed to a cause, good or bad. But using those businesses doesn't mean you support the cause; to do that you'd need to make a contribution yourself.
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