We've had 12-car 365s working non-stop at 100mph between Kings Cross and Cambridge with only a driver on board since British Rail days...
You're welcome to them. We can keep the 365s on Great Northern
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Thameslink/ Class 700 Progress
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We've had 12-car 365s working non-stop at 100mph between Kings Cross and Cambridge with only a driver on board since British Rail days...
You're welcome to them. We can keep the 365s on Great Northern
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superhands
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I thought the first 12 car 365 was in the mid 2000 around 2004 or 2006
Alteran Ancient
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Is it really the case that the 700s do not have their own ramps stored somewhere near the accessible loo, something that the 375/377s have been doing for a while? Even the 465/9s have one on board. That way, where a 700 stops, you automatically know that a ramp is available if it is needed.
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bengley
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Yes, they do, as ComUtoR said above.
Yeah I'm pretty sure I've seen on onboard. I rechecked the 700 digital manual and I couldn't see it.
The thing with onboard ramps is that they are secured in cupboards etc it isn't quick access and with DOO we aren't even allowed to use them. IF they were used as passenger ramps they would have to be safety critical items and required at all times. The onboard staff would then become more of a requirement and they would need to contact the Driver to prevent accidental door closure etc.
I think a better question is why 700 ramps are so bloody different. Why didn't they use the standard ones already available. I noticed on the platforms the ramps are marked 700 use only and they are very different.
Presumably because the doors on the 700s are wider so they need a wider ramp otherwise there will be a drop and also potentially move in use if they don't fit into the doorway properly - these ramps would not fit on the other stock - e.g. 365s/387s. The wider ramps will presumably also be used on the 717s when they are introduced?
I'm sure I've seen a design where the ramp is stored beneath the door step and slides out when needed. I can even imagine a design where the user can ask for assistance, and the whole procedure could be operated from the cab, with remote monitoring. Another gizmo to go wrong and fail the train!
Alteran Ancient
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I missed that one - thanks.
They have these in Germany - spotted them on the Stuttgart S-Bahn on the S2 and S3. The DB Class 430s in particular.
24tph soon... looooooool
At least at Elephant you got options. Turnback, Blackfriars bays, Southwark bridge.
When it does back up I wonder how far out the core it will stretch. I've seen a couple of really bad days but 24tph is frightening (also funny) when I think about that going wrong.
asylumxl
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Was onboard a delayed Bedford service this afternoon which had an extended stop at City Thameslink. Not really sure what happened but it seems it had a decent knock on effect, all things considered.
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spark001uk
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This one of your workings?! (2W34). Been on it half hour now and this is still up on the PIS. (not that it'll stop the oiks).
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Crun
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Does anyone know when we'll see 700s at Peterborough?
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Shouldn't be too long I think.
On that note, does this week mark an all 700 service through the core? I've just been on 1W31 and it's no longer worked by 377s. Is that it now? (apart from a few SN 377s still running into LBG that is)
A post on WNXX by "class377/5" on this site said that this week marks all Thameslink Core services being 700s, and then next week, all currently branded Thameslink Services become 700s.
Well they are over half way through delivering the 115 trains for Thameslink, and a few of the class 707s so clearly they are capable of 'building trains'.
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Saw 700 117 in service this morning at Blackfriars, must be one of its first days in service?
Apparently Monday was its first day, possibly on 5W00 0430 Three Bridges Tl Up Depot to Bedford for 1W93 0730 Bedford to Brighton as that had a Three Bridges finish.
Currently in siding 16 or 17 at Bedford Jowett Sidings if my attempts to track it for possible haulage tomorrow are correct.
700123/700120/700117 now in service from the latest batch.
Incidentally, the 0520 Three Bridges to Bedford failed at Redhill on Monday morning. Its return journey to Three Bridges depot was given the headcode 5H17 http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O26289/2017/09/11/advanced.
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Multiple brake faults and a computer saying "No".
Alteran Ancient
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Does that headcode spell what I think it spells? :3
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Why do the 700s announce the next stations so early?
"We will shortly be arriving at Denmark Hill"... while the train hasn't even taken the curve outside Loughborough Junction.
"We will shortly be arriving at Nunhead".. and the train is still accelerating up the slope from Peckham Rye
"We will shortly be arriving at Denmark Hill"... while the train hasn't even taken the curve outside Loughborough Junction.
"We will shortly be arriving at Nunhead".. and the train is still accelerating up the slope from Peckham Rye
Why do the 700s announce the next stations so early?
"We will shortly be arriving at Denmark Hill"... while the train hasn't even taken the curve outside Loughborough Junction.
"We will shortly be arriving at Nunhead".. and the train is still accelerating up the slope from Peckham Rye
I noticed this when I was on one the other week! I haven't noticed it anywhere else so assumed it was just a configuration error.
Has the level of announcements increased recently? I understand they want to be open to everyone but by making them so loud the audience might become bigger since those with ok hearing could become deaf pretty quickly. Not to mention that going through core the announcements are on almost all the time. I doubt that those who use TL during peak don't know which station is which. Or that they need to be reminded that the service to Sevenoaks will be stopping at umpteen stations every 5 minutes. It's like they are trying to make us suffer for using their crappy trains.
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Why do the 700s announce the next stations so early?
"We will shortly be arriving at Denmark Hill"... while the train hasn't even taken the curve outside Loughborough Junction.
"We will shortly be arriving at Nunhead".. and the train is still accelerating up the slope from Peckham Rye
Could be DDA compliance?- someone with reduced or limited mobility may need longer to get to a door.
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