It is clear you don't like having your views challenged ...
I do not mind at all. What
is clear is that you have not properly read what I originally wrote.
but you haven't answer the exam question.
Because I never suggested that. Read it again. My principal criticism of this whole affair was merely that all trains were cancelled between MK and Watford, with not even a token service on offer.
How do you get me from Watford to/from Euston? How do you get the train to and from Watford and how do you ensure it is used, mainly by passengers for intermediate stations rather than Euston passengers? ...
If you can't turn trains at Watford any longer, this is unacceptable. As I said, this is the most important main line in the country, and this level of inflexibiltiy in an advanced economy needs addressing. But as others have suggested, you can turn at Tring (it seems). So why no service to there?
You are also thinking about the issue only with a view to considering a journey by rail. Surely the sensible thing to do is to consider the whole picture.
I am trying, but my intellect is just not up to some people's in here, I accept that.
Then answer for most might be - don't take me to Watford. Put me on a bus at MK.
It may well be. I never suggested it was not. Please read what I wrote again - I indicated that bus could well be an acceptable option, perhaps the best for a majority of folks.
CLEARLY there should be some form of service running south of MK to serve the intermediate stations.
Aha! So now you are agreeing with myself and several others on this point. We are getting somewhere after all.
The problem is where to turn it around and how to make it work with one depot worth or train crew and trains short becuase of the blockage.
Of course, major disruption like last night causes problems for operators. That does not mean giving up and saying 'we can't run any trains south of MK' surely?
We might have a crossover at Watford North but for a landslip and a desire to avoid voluble critics wailing and gnashing their teeth ( perhaps such as yourself) about inconvenience with two routes closed.
Two routes closed? I'm confused on that one.
But in view of your superior judgement on posters here, I certainly shall be careful not to metaphorically wail or gnash teeth at any time in the future, just in case. The verbal lashing is just too frightening a prospect.
Well I think I do know. What with having used such a route several times. It is much easier ( and i think quicker) to go to Luton by bus form MK than stagger down to Watford and then be left there.
Well, why not say it like that first time round. You could well be correct - for the majority. But again, I did not suggest the majority go "staggering down to Watford." I was suggesting that for some people, eg heading to the HArrow, Webley area, it still might be a useful option - if there were some trains.
However I know that this means making heinous suggestion: using another mode of transport to rail but in situations like this a rail only view wont help passengers go about their business
"heinous suggestion" - your words.
... it seems you hadn't as you simply went for the straight forward moans and complains about the lack of diversionary routes.
ER, read my original posts again, please. Even a six year old knows it takes time to build a railway line. I am a bit older than six, so I really didn't need to be told that. (and I had written that it would take eight years in any case - but you decided not to read that.)
What you term "moans" is another person's opinion (terribly sorry about that). I happen to think that part of the initial reaction to this crisis - ie closing all tracks between MK and Watford, is unacceptable. Efforts should have been made to offer some basic service.
Longer term the ability to turn trains easily at Watford Junction needs to be addressed.
BTW the financial loss here wont cause the government to fund a network of such routes.
Also complaining about what we should have wont fix the problems we do have today. How do people get home from work tonight? THAT is the issue not diversions.
That is the issue (of several in this incident) you have decided to highlight. It's certainly a valid issue, but just because my original post did not particularly address it, does not make discussion of other issues, including solutions longer term, unworthy of discussion does it?
As one esteemed poster here has mentioned: "Surely the sensible thing to do is to consider the whole picture." - ?
Merely following in the footsteps of a master of the genre. (Apart from rereading my posts, perhaps you should read your own again - gnashing teeth, heinous, MK bus interchange, etc )
NRE have tweeted that the line is open
Good news. Well done to those involved.
