Virgin Trains (VTWC) new livery being introduced

DarloRich · 11 Oct 2017

comparing the French national rail company or the German national rail company owning a British rail company and no one points out the stupidity of the whole thing..................

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Up_Tilt_390 · 11 Oct 2017

DarloRich said:
comparing the French national rail company or the German national rail company owning a British rail company and no one points out the stupidity of the whole thing..................

Might I point you to something I said previously in the thread?

Up_Tilt_390 said:
But might I add how silly I think it is that the DfT asks the operators to have experience in operating high speed trains and infrastructure. No operator in the UK has that (except Eurostar for high speed trains, but not the other half), and it's pretty much asking for more of our railway revenue to go to these European operators who've already milked the pennies they can via Keolis, Abellio etc.

HLE · 11 Oct 2017

New livery looks awful on the pendos. As white as a ghost!

AGA seem to get the colour spot on

sprinterguy · 11 Oct 2017

HLE said:
New livery looks awful on the pendos. As white as a ghost!

The set did look particularly ghostly when I saw 390010 sweeping through Prestbury in the dark the other evening. Nice of Virgin to come up with an appropriate livery in time for Halloween.

bnsf734 · 12 Oct 2017

Been reported on UKModern EMU forum today that 390006 (Set 2) has been outshopped from Widnes today and it is on the following diagram:

Liverpool South Parkway 07:44 1R27
Euston 10:30 1S52
Glasgow Central 15:40 1M16
Euston 21:00 1H10
Manchester Picc. 23+31 5H10
Longsight CMD

XCTurbostar · 12 Oct 2017

Has 390006 kept its name plates? (although they’re probably stickers now)
Thanks,
Ross

Nean · 12 Oct 2017

sprinterguy said:
The set did look particularly ghostly when I saw 390010 sweeping through Prestbury in the dark the other evening. Nice of Virgin to come up with an appropriate livery in time for Halloween.

I'm now waiting for Blackpool Pleasure Beach to sponsor a "ghost train" if/when the Blackpool service materialises!

sprinterguy · 13 Oct 2017

XCTurbostar said:
Has 390006 kept its name plates? (although they’re probably stickers now)
Thanks,
Ross

I caught it this morning, working the 06:27 Manchester Piccadilly - Euston, via Birmingham, if anyone's curious enough to extrapolate what it's doing for the rest of the day. It's now got "Rethink Mental Illness' stick-on plates, and they're light blue.

childwallblues · 13 Oct 2017

sprinterguy said:
I caught it to work this morning. It's now got "Rethink Mental Illness' stick-on plates, and they're light blue.

Does anyboby know which unit has replaced 390006 at Widnes?

Jamesrob637 · 13 Oct 2017

390010 is working the 14:55 Manchester to Euston - just rode it as far as Stockport to put it on Pendolino CV

XCTurbostar · 13 Oct 2017

390006 is currently working 9S80 14:43 London Euston to Edinburgh. https://traksy.uk/live/M+39+NNTN/M+30+BHAMNBL+33/M+10+BHAMNWS+1+9S80

Mag_seven · 13 Oct 2017

I saw this livery close up today for the first time - it's hideous - its like what a bare internal wall looks like when you strip it of existing wallpaper.

nottinghamcity · 13 Oct 2017

Saw 390006 at BHM earlier. Struggled to get much of an impression that close up - just it seems too white. I guess it will look more balanced with the next franchise.

childwallblues · 16 Oct 2017

bnsf734 said:
Been reported on UKModern EMU forum today that 390006 (Set 2) has been outshopped from Widnes today and it is on the following diagram:

Liverpool South Parkway 07:44 1R27
Euston 10:30 1S52
Glasgow Central 15:40 1M16
Euston 21:00 1H10
Manchester Picc. 23+31 5H10
Longsight CMD

390006 did start on the 0747 LPY-EUS but was terminated as were most other trains at Milton Keynes Central due to an incident in the Headstone Lane area. Its next movement is not known but it appeared later on the 1452 EDB-EUS via BHM.

denisstrak · 17 Oct 2017

childwallblues said:
Does anyboby know which unit has replaced 390006 at Widnes?

390 009

denisstrak · 17 Oct 2017

387star said:
I wonder if the sticker hides an unsightly indentation where the shield once was.. the crosscountry voyagers still have the odd shade of yellow where the shield once was which looks a bit tacky

the indentations have been smoothed over

childwallblues · 18 Oct 2017

denisstrak said:
390 009

Thank you

denisstrak · 19 Oct 2017

childwallblues said:
Thank you

691 painted this evening

childwallblues · 19 Oct 2017

What is 691?

Domh245 · 19 Oct 2017

childwallblues said:
What is 691?

I would guess that it is 69109, the DMRF vehicle of the rake being repainted.

denisstrak · 19 Oct 2017

Domh245 said:
I would guess that it is 69109, the DMRF vehicle of the rake being repainted.

correct

hibtastic · 25 Nov 2017

390005 noted as in the new livery today and with the black stripe down the windows which i different to the others.

Skimble19 · 25 Nov 2017

hibtastic said:
390005 noted as in the new livery today and with the black stripe down the windows which i different to the others.

Just seen a photo of it on Twitter, looks miles better with the black window surrounds.

Courtesy of @ian_selfieking’s on Twitter
https://twitter.com/ian_selfieking/status/934160240278417408?s=09

denisstrak · 25 Nov 2017

hibtastic said:
390005 noted as in the new livery today and with the black stripe down the windows which i different to the others.

they are all now getting the same treatment, 390 016 is now in and should be out a week on tuesday

E_Reeves · 25 Nov 2017

Looks much better with the window surrounds. Will the 390s without them get them added or will they stay as they are?

superalbs · 25 Nov 2017

Still looks quite frankly awful, but it looks a lot more complete now.

I think that's the most positive I can be.

Bletchleyite · 25 Nov 2017

That looks loads better. As I've said elsewhere white based liveries only work with a window band. Otherwise they just look like a white van from the factory running a cheap and nasty courier service, or somesuch.

ChilternTurbo · 25 Nov 2017

Mag_seven said:
I saw this livery close up today for the first time - it's hideous - its like what a bare internal wall looks like when you strip it of existing wallpaper.

I have to agree. I saw the new non-livery at Stoke-on-Trent earlier this week. I think that a black or grey band around the carriage window would really make a positive difference. The current effect of all white, makes the carriages look very 'slab sided' and accentuates the very small windows...

sprinterguy · 25 Nov 2017

Skimble19 said:
Just seen a photo of it on Twitter, looks miles better with the black window surrounds.

Courtesy of @ian_selfieking’s on Twitter
https://twitter.com/ian_selfieking/status/934160240278417408?s=09

Aye, that helps. Though does nobody decide on a final livery beforehand these days? Though such criticisms were being voiced through the letters page of Modern Railways thirty years ago in response to sectorisation, so nothing new I guess.

Goldfish62 · 25 Nov 2017

E_Reeves said:
Looks much better with the window surrounds. Will the 390s without them get them added or will they stay as they are?

I saw one of the original repaint the other day and thought how awful it looked. Glad the window surrounds are back.

I also thought the matt Virgin vinyls on the unit ends looked poor. Gloss finish would have been much better.

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