I've always found a polite wave + smile to attract attention, then pointing at the "No phones" logo works well.
Taking the effort not to interrupt their call is a mark of respect that (hopefully) engenders the same in return.
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South Western Railway could axe quiet train carriages
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I've always found a polite wave + smile to attract attention, then pointing at the "No phones" logo works well.
Taking the effort not to interrupt their call is a mark of respect that (hopefully) engenders the same in return.
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Richard1960
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To be honest if it gets to the stage that you have to point at a sign ,they are not respecting you as a fellow traveller in the quite coach anyway , but now days I have partially given up and carry my enclosed headphones with me (so other passengers cant hear) ,and put my own stuff on , as I don't want to listen to others music/conversations , and don't expect them to listen to mine , which is why I choose the quite coach.!
The position of the quiet coach is important. I often travel with groups of children/families, for whom the train trip is a great social occasion. We try to be considerate to those who prefer a quieter journey, but it is not easy to guess where to stand on the platform in order to avoid the quiet coach. At Staines it can be at the front, the back, or in the middle! It is not helped by the adjacent coach being predominantly first class. As it is not always easy to then rush down the platform with buggies/kids/grannies etc, we just have to 'disturb' the quiet coach. A more sensible location for the quiet zone on 450s would be in the composite first/standard coach.
Could he not request the presence of BTP?
Every time I've done it the person has been surprised, and ended their call. They just hadn't noticed.
I hope these kids grow up to have a far better attitude than you towards others. There is no justification for disturbing the quiet coach.
Think you might want to read the post again, they have no desire to intentionally disturb the quiet coach.
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If the alternative is likely to heighten the chance of injuries at the PTI (ie. having to move a large group 20-30 metres down the platform quickly) then that is more than enough justification for getting on the carriage closest to where you are.
cactustwirly
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I don't see the point in a quiet coach anyway, because train carriages from my experience are quite quiet.
There is very little difference between the sound in quiet coach & a normal coach.
There is very little difference between the sound in quiet coach & a normal coach.
F Great Eastern
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The last 6 quiet coaches I've sat in on a mixture of GWR and GA have all had people ignoring the rules and bringing kids on board and even babies who scream for the whole journey, even on lightly used services.
I like the concept, but sadly most of my fellow passengers couldn't give a crap.
I like the concept, but sadly most of my fellow passengers couldn't give a crap.
221129
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For someone being noisy in a quiet coach? Are you serious?!
221129
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If they are given a reservation there by default then it's going to happen. If the train is busy and the only available seats are in the quiet coach guess where I am going to sit? If I'm in a group and the only place for us to all sit together is a table in the quiet coach guess where we will sit?
duffield
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I've accidentally sat in the quiet coach on an unfamiliar train and taken a phone call. I noticed the signs about 1 minute into the call and immediately moved to the end of the coach to complete it.
The signs weren't terribly obvious.
F Great Eastern
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They're not given a reservation there in my experience since they're always getting into unreserved seats.
If you read my post again you'll see I stated that the trains were not busy,. they include middle of the day services from Paddington to Oxford.
I'm fairly well experienced with what was SWT Waterloo-Reading services. These have a Quiet Coach which is well labeled but during the peak times it's so rammed full that there's no way any guard could do anything to enforce it, it wouldn't be possible to move through the train. Even off peak it is largely ignored, especially by the large number of school children that seem to frequent this service.
Kite159
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Keep the 'quiet' coaches on the 159s, but shift them from the 57xxx coach to the composite 52xxx coach so there is less area for being a quiet coach.
I say this because most of the time when I board a busy train I would head to the quiet coach because most of the time it is quieter (in terms of passenger loading) than the other coaches.
And get rid of the quiet area on a 158, as it around half of a coach, with the other half being a regular non-quiet coach, causes some confusion.
I say this because most of the time when I board a busy train I would head to the quiet coach because most of the time it is quieter (in terms of passenger loading) than the other coaches.
And get rid of the quiet area on a 158, as it around half of a coach, with the other half being a regular non-quiet coach, causes some confusion.
According to a story on the Evening Standard website, dated 7th December, at www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/south-western-railway-launch-vote-on-decision-to-scrap-quiet-carriages-a3712841.html?S2ref=1905885, SWR was inviting passengers to vote online on whether to scrap Quiet Coaches.
Does anyone know whether the deadline for this vote has passed, and if so, what the outcome was? I can't find any reference to it (or to Quiet Coaches) anywhere on the SWR website.
Personally, I can understand people wanting Quiet Coaches on longer distance journeys, but I think they are pretty pointless on suburban trains. My parents live in Putney, and when I was staying with them over Christmas, the Class 455s and 458s still had them (but people tend to ignore them). I don't think they've bothered labelling up "quiet" sections in the new 707s, though.
Does anyone know whether the deadline for this vote has passed, and if so, what the outcome was? I can't find any reference to it (or to Quiet Coaches) anywhere on the SWR website.
Personally, I can understand people wanting Quiet Coaches on longer distance journeys, but I think they are pretty pointless on suburban trains. My parents live in Putney, and when I was staying with them over Christmas, the Class 455s and 458s still had them (but people tend to ignore them). I don't think they've bothered labelling up "quiet" sections in the new 707s, though.
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There was an overwhelming consensus in favour of retaining quiet zones (90%): https://forum.southwesternrailway.com/updates-and-news/b/blogs/posts/quietzones.
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