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Is it correct that passengers are fined for using cash now? If a passenger lives elsewhere, and doesn't have an Oyster card or a contactless card, they pay more for a paper ticket?
 
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No reason not to have an Oyster card. You can get them from any ticket machine (except some NR stations where you can still get reasonably priced paper tickets), they never expire and if you prefer you can get your credit and deposit back at the end of your trip.
 

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No reason not to have an Oyster card. You can get them from any ticket machine (except some NR stations where you can still get reasonably priced paper tickets), they never expire and if you prefer you can get your credit and deposit back at the end of your trip.


I'll have one journey, I don't live in GB, and this trip is a one off. Seems like a lot of hassle when I used to be able to just buy a single.
 

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Fair point, if you’re only passing through I think there may be a minimum time between buying and refunding an Oyster card
 

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I'll have one journey, I don't live in GB, and this trip is a one off. Seems like a lot of hassle when I used to be able to just buy a single.

You can still buy a single, you just have to make a contribution to the cost of maintaining ticket-printing facilities and mechanical ticket barriers. Calling it a fine is a bit sensational.
 

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As the cash price is double the Oyster/contactless price, how else would you describe it?
 

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I'd describe it as being cheaper for people using modern technology. My Bank card only does a 2% addition if I spent money overseas so even using contactless will be a lot cheaper than this "double" cash price.

ps - don't go to Sydney, where all public transport is cash free and has to be paid for by card.
 

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I'd describe it as being cheaper for people using modern technology. My Bank card only does a 2% addition if I spent money overseas so even using contactless will be a lot cheaper than this "double" cash price.

ps - don't go to Sydney, where all public transport is cash free and has to be paid for by card.


Pull up the ladder Joe. I can see how appreciative you all are, what a friendly forum.
 

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The only "fine" is for a single ticket. A paper one day travelcard for zones 1 and 2 is £6.80 which is cheaper than three zone 1 trips on Oyster or two cash singles.

A travelcard will be necessary anyway if you wish to use the bus without Oyster or Contactless.
 

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What contactless card? Read the original post.
They could get a contactless card, prepaid if they like. Unless they are coming from NI they have arranged international travel, obtained a passport, changed some money etc so they are clearly able to acquire a contactless credit or debit card.
 

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They could get a contactless card, prepaid if they like. Unless they are coming from NI they have arranged international travel, obtained a passport, changed some money etc so they are clearly able to acquire a contactless credit or debit card.

Travelling from NI to London is international and requires a money change?
 

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The only "fine" is for a single ticket. A paper one day travelcard for zones 1 and 2 is £6.80 which is cheaper than three zone 1 trips on Oyster or two cash singles.

A travelcard will be necessary anyway if you wish to use the bus without Oyster or Contactless.

Pointless talking about a travelcard when I've only one journey.
 

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The only "fine" is for a single ticket. A paper one day travelcard for zones 1 and 2 is £6.80 which is cheaper than three zone 1 trips on Oyster or two cash singles.

A travelcard will be necessary anyway if you wish to use the bus without Oyster or Contactless.
The cheapest paper one-day travelcard is £12.50. Your £6.80 is the Oyster/contactless cap for zones 1-2.
 

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The cheapest paper one-day travelcard is £12.50. Your £6.80 is the Oyster/contactless cap for zones 1-2.

My thread is about a single journey ticket, and the fact that it costs double if paid in cash.
 

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Travelling from NI to London is international and requires a money change?

No, the message said unless coming from NI.

Also, I think the cash price for a single ticket has been at a premium (or non-discounted, however you want to call it) for a good ten years or so.

Just get an Oyster PAYG card if you don't have a contactless payment card (or any way to get one) and either get a refund of the outstanding money or hold on to it for your next trip in the future.
 

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Are Northern Ireland residents less likely to have contactless than those in GB? I just checked the websites of the four major NI banks and they all offer contactless.
 

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My thread is about a single journey ticket, and the fact that it costs double if paid in cash.
Yes, I appreciate that. Unfortunately a response to that thread contained seriously incorrect information which needed to be challenged/corrected.
 

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Travelling from NI to London is international and requires a money change?
No, but if you're arriving with banknotes issued by NI banks, it might get a bit "inconvenient" spending those in some places in London (having to argue the toss here, there and everywhere).

Now that ticket office windows have been closed at LU stations, will the ticket machines accept NI (& Scottish) banknotes? This would apply whether you're paying over the odds for a cash single paper ticket, or buying a one-use Oyster.
 
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Is it correct that passengers are fined for using cash now? If a passenger lives elsewhere, and doesn't have an Oyster card or a contactless card, they pay more for a paper ticket?
More like they do not get a discount for using an Oyster or a contactless bank card :?:
 

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Now that ticket office windows have been closed at LU stations, will the ticket machines accept NI (& Scottish) banknotes? This would apply whether you're paying over the odds for a cash single paper ticket, or buying a one-use Oyster.
Speaking from regular experience with Scottish notes, I can confirm that very few machines of any type in England will accept them.
 

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Now that ticket office windows have been closed at LU stations, will the ticket machines accept NI (& Scottish) banknotes? This would apply whether you're paying over the odds for a cash single paper ticket, or buying a one-use Oyster.
The machines at all gateway stations (this is Heathrow Terminals 123, Kings +, Paddington, Victoria & Euston) as well as selected other major stations accept banknotes from Northern Ireland and Scotland, up to and including £20 denominations.

You can also spend them at the windows in the TfL Visitor information centres, at the five gateway stations as well as Gatwick Airport and Piccadilly Circus. Alternatively Oyster cards may be bought and topped up from local newsagents or other shops registered as Oyster ticket stops.
 

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Speaking from regular experience with Scottish notes, I can confirm that very few machines of any type in England will accept them.

Is it not getting better now that Scottish banks are issuing the polymer notes that are the same size as the Bank of England polymer notes?
 

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Is it not getting better now that Scottish banks are issuing the polymer notes that are the same size as the Bank of England polymer notes?
Every one of the new scottish notes i have put in a tvm has been accepted first time no problem.
 

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The machines at all gateway stations (this is Heathrow Terminals 123, Kings +, Paddington, Victoria & Euston) as well as selected other major stations accept banknotes from Northern Ireland and Scotland, up to and including £20 denominations.........
Every one of the new scottish notes i have put in a tvm has been accepted first time no problem.
That's good to hear.
If we could just get black cab drivers who pick up fares from Euston or King's Cross to accept a Scottish £5 or £10 note without protest, now that would be progress! :)

But I think we have got a bit OT here.
 
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