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(AUS) A new train for Melbourne.

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Pakenhamtrain

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For the last week down in Birrarung Marr the general public have thier chance to view 1 and 1/2 car mock of the new High Capacity Metro Train. The HCMT 65 new 7 car EMUs being built by Downer Rail for the initially for Pakenham & Cranbourne lines in mid-2019, then the Metro rail tunnel and Sunbury line in 2026.

The bodyshells will be built at CRRC Changchun Railway Vehicles before being shipped to the Newport Workshops where final fitout will occur before they make the trip to thier purpose built depot at Pakenham East. They will have the capability to be expanded to 8-9 or 10 cars.

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The front end of the new units. The coupler will be under the nosecone.
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Looking along the "Platform" with the lead 4100 car and the 1/2 4200 car.
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The back end of the 4100 car. Of note these will have exterior CCTV at each car to allow the driver to see along the entire length of the train.
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Looking along the 4100 car from the front near the drivers door. This area will have 6 wheelchair spaces.
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These will feature LCD screen to display the next stop and a stripmap to show the location of the train along the line.
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While these trains will seat the same as a current 6 car train they will feature a lot more standing room along the train. Areas like this will be at the front and rear of each car.
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Looking back towards the driving cab. The seat design on the right I believe is the one chosen.
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The drivers cab was a popular place to be so I couldn't get a decent shot of it but talking to a driver mate who was consulted on the trains has said the cab has had a total redesign. They will be ready for High Capacity signalling and I believe will run ATO through the metro tunnel on account of the platform doors.
 
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Could these be the most European looking trains to run on Aussie rails? And no kidding about extra standing space: 2+3 seating whittled down to 2+2 with super wide aisles. Very Thameslink. Which is quite apt since this route, like Thameslink when it first (re)opened, will cut across the city's existing network.
 

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Could these be the most European looking trains to run on Aussie rails? And no kidding about extra standing space: 2+3 seating whittled down to 2+2 with super wide aisles. Very Thameslink. Which is quite apt since this route, like Thameslink when it first (re)opened, will cut across the city's existing network.
The closest would have to be these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens_Nexas
 

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Thanks for the link. Having read it would I be right in thinking that in fact only the Comeng sets still have 2+3 seating and that even these are likely to be down-seated? Given the justification for the new metro line was booming passenger numbers I wonder how popular a reduction in the number of seats has proved to be...
 

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Thanks for the link. Having read it would I be right in thinking that in fact only the Comeng sets still have 2+3 seating and that even these are likely to be down-seated? Given the justification for the new metro line was booming passenger numbers I wonder how popular a reduction in the number of seats has proved to be...
The Comeng fleet already has had seats removed around the doors. They're keeping the 2+3 seating. If I remember correctly it's because of where the 3 seat is mounted on the isle side.
They are getting new handholds, seat fabric and LED marker lights with the current life extension mods.


I think people have just grinned and bared it. They know the trains have been getting much more busy.
 

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Re Comeng fleet:

The isle side seat mount, is where the floor frame exists. There is no additional frame under where the second seat is, therefore they can not put the seat mount into the floor at that location.

The only way they can reduce the Comeng fleet to 2+2 seating is, either to leave the mounting/support where it is, and let it stick out by half a seat, and become a trip hazard, OR, they can rip up the floor, and attach a new bit of floor frame to where they would need it to be. That would be too costly, as the Comeng fleet are now old. 30 years old.
 
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