No no, sometimes some of them, the sophisticated ones, do allocate time for Facebook. I meant before going to do the breaking and rifling through stuff, in order to gather precious information about who is in or who is out
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DynamicSpirit
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LOL! I think the issue is that you need to be careful on Facebook (and indeed on all social media) about posting stuff that might reveal to lots of other people that everyone in your house is away, and your house is therefore empty. Probably not too bad if your security on FB is set up correctly, so that the only people who can read your posts are people whom you know well in real life, but plenty of people are less careful and post stuff that the whole World can read that hints at that kind of information.
Yeah I totally agree. Apologies to GMT there, I kind of took it to the extreme. Ha ha. Most of the arguments against Facebook seem to be based on who people are friends with and how they set up their security settings. It's like not liking your car because of who you let in it, how you use it and then also leaving it unlocked.
Since I started driving for Uber my car is always full of idiots and seems to need filling with petrol every day. I'm thinking of getting rid of it and just walking everywhere instead.
My point exactly. All down to who you let on. The problem isn't your car.
SS4
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Unless your car is recording everything said or done to sell onto advertisers. Unless the car makes you give up your phone number to put on a second set of locks (but it's your fault if it's robbed) and harvests details on your car from your friends.
edit: also that your car tracks your activity on various sites (in facebook's case this is the facebook button on various sites)
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t_star2001uk
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Last year after a 10 year abcense from Facebook i decided to give it another chance, it took 4 months to realise that i had made a mistake and deleted it again.....
Did you still have the same friends?
t_star2001uk
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It wasnt the friends side of things that did it, it was the constant adverts, fake and recycled news stories and because of some of the friends likes and subscriptions, the constant pro Brexit, anti Brexit, Vote, vote, vote for jeremy corbyn campaigns. I just got fed up very quickly so i can do without Facebook....
Fair enough mate but that is partially what I don't get. Most (Not all) of the adverts I get are based on stuff I look for. If I'm not interested I ignore them. The rest of it is based on what my friends are in to.
I actually think that Facebook advertising can be a problem, it isn't always reputable companies advertising - and there is seemingly no regulation of how they target their advertising and who they allow to advertise.
It allows all sorts of dodgy people to try and specifically target those who may be particularly vulnerable.
Perhaps, for example, someone who has recently lost their wife doesn't really need to be bombarded with adverts for Russian brides or dating 'agencies' every time they logon. Whether they want the advertising or not, it may not be good for their mental health, but that doesn't matter to Facebook or the advertisers.
It allows all sorts of dodgy people to try and specifically target those who may be particularly vulnerable.
Perhaps, for example, someone who has recently lost their wife doesn't really need to be bombarded with adverts for Russian brides or dating 'agencies' every time they logon. Whether they want the advertising or not, it may not be good for their mental health, but that doesn't matter to Facebook or the advertisers.
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Bletchleyite
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Any large company will have that happen from time to time. It won't kill them - or not at least until someone comes up with something better, which nobody has even nearly done yet - there are other social media systems but all of them are rather more specific in scope.
telstarbox
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It's useful for setting up events quickly and easily with the advantage that a lot of the population are already on there, so you and they don't need to register for a separate service.
Groups can be OK but I find the format much more difficult for posting/retrieving topics compared with dedicated forums like this one.
Groups can be OK but I find the format much more difficult for posting/retrieving topics compared with dedicated forums like this one.
nlogax
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Will Mark Zuckerburg deem the DCMS Committee worthy of his time & attention and spend a nice day out in Westminster? Guess we'll find out soon enough.
Peter Mugridge
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Is anyone actually surprised Facebook were involved in this sort of thing? I'm not...
Bletchleyite
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The advantage of groups is that the barrier to entry is much lower than setting up a proper forum like this. If you want one for your mates (or similar) it takes about 5 seconds to create one.
DynamicSpirit
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My own view would be that coming up with something better designed than Facebook wouldn't be hard at all. The main problem would be that Facebook already has millions of users - and it's hard to attract people to use any social media forum if there aren't already lots of people on it already.
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Nor am I Peter. Any system that is free must suggest that you and your preferences are serving someone else, whether that be for targeted advertising or trying to target influence for political gain. They are hardly offering a system for keeping in touch with your mates because they just want to be charitable. The power of the media to control what people say & think should not be under estimated and on a global scale as FB will reach, this might have some scary and far reaching capabilities.
Bletchleyite
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To be fair Google+ was a fairly reasonable attempt at such a thing when combined with the other Google services - but even the might of Google couldn't unseat FB.
Peter Mugridge
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I thought Google+ was simply about them being able to target advertising...?
Yes, I am aware there are easy ways round blocks but the majority of people wouldn't know how to do this.
Should the Government block Facebook?
Why? Because of the dodgy practices with data and to show that Facebook can't just do what it wants, when it wants without any recourse.
But why should the Government control what I can and can't access?
Yes, we don't live in a dictatorship... or do we?
With the Government specifying specific cigarette packet colours and designs, taxing fizzy drinks, schools not allowing chocolate in packed lunches... we're limited by choices the government makes for "our own benefit" - so why shouldn't the government block Facebook for a day as "Social Media Free Day" or something, killing two birds with one stone.
Should the Government block Facebook?
Why? Because of the dodgy practices with data and to show that Facebook can't just do what it wants, when it wants without any recourse.
But why should the Government control what I can and can't access?
Yes, we don't live in a dictatorship... or do we?
With the Government specifying specific cigarette packet colours and designs, taxing fizzy drinks, schools not allowing chocolate in packed lunches... we're limited by choices the government makes for "our own benefit" - so why shouldn't the government block Facebook for a day as "Social Media Free Day" or something, killing two birds with one stone.
DynamicSpirit
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This discussion has made me curious, so a general question for people... Suppose there was another app that attempted to do the same kinds of things that Facebook does, and which already had a large enough user base to be worthwhile being on. What specific things would you want to be different about it? What differences/features would make you prefer to use it rather than Facebook?
hexagon789
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Obviously they could block it, but I doubt they will somehow.
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shredder1
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Its like anything, sensible control and legislation and its a great medium for contact and networking.
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