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Abuse to the 'Push' buttons on trains.

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Chilled Phill

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323s are probably the more easier buttons to grasp for the newcomers to the train. When the green LEDs, in a rather nice circular arrangement, along the circumference of the button light up then you can open the door. Simples. I do find the inclusion of a "close button" a little annoying, if you've ever taken the 15:46 service from Picc-Crewe you'll see why. For those who have never had the pleasure, the kids at Gatley get on (far dodge) and then **** about with the door getting off at Heald Green (the next stop, roughly £1.10 if anything for a single). They play this trick on some of their mates by pressing the close button and then the doors close on their mate. Tbh, anything could happen - the doors could break or, less likely granted, the victim could be (mildly) crushed against the doors and get injured.

Anyway back to the button issue, People still press it a tonne of times and really don't need to make a connection (rail wise) because they're the first ones out of the bloody station. :lol:

Perhaps they don't want to have to line up at the end of the platform, because at Piccadilly they have these ticket inspectors who do exactly what the job says, inspect tickets. But the problem is the sheer number of people who exit the train during rush hour (like 300+) makes it nearly impossible to moderate EVERYBODY. Basically, they line up at first but then it all breaks down because there's somebody who has to be somewhere more important than getting his ticket inspected. 3/5 I manage to get past 'em without my ticket being inspected. Tbh, they hardly check the ticket anyway - so long as it has "Manchester Stns" and doesn't have "YP" on the ticket you're fine. :lol:

Back to the topic, I would have to say I find "button bashers" a little annoying at times because it does f-all in the speed of their journey. Although just take note of which button opens the door. Once I was on a Pacer and managed to embarrass myself by trying to open the door pressing the close button. To be fair, the console was facing the opposite direction to where the doors are so I couldn't see the buttons, not like anybody in the line actually took note mind. :lol:
 
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Old trains seem to have open at the top, new trains - or those that have been refurbished properly, meaning the need for DDA complaince - have it at the bottom (for wheelchair users). Presumably all the new trains must also have illuminated buttons?

Even though the plug doors on some trains look rather vicious - in my experience, they very quickly detect an obstruction and will open again. I'm not sure what happens when the driver closes them though.
 

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People behind you often start moaning at how long you're taking to open the doors. If I can sense someone moaning, I'll press it almost to make a point that I can't do anything.

When my Dad hears moaning behind him about the doors he turns around and says "whats your problam" or "the doors wont go any faster" you should see some of the looks he gets afterwards:lol:
 

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This happened on a daily basis in the Southern Region until 2005 and there were few if any injuries due to people opening the doors early.
I'm no expert on the southern region slamdoor stock so don't take this to heart if I'm wrong! , but surely a mk3 door is alot wider/heavier than that of a slammer?
 

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Yes but before CDL you could open the door before the train stops, it didnt even have to be in a station i dont think. Imagine if you were going non-stop at 60mph+ and some idiot opens the door at the station that your not stopping at
 

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I must confess to being a quick repeat button pusher. This is partly due to impatience, but also because there have been occasions when the little light bulb around the button hasn't been working and I've been left looking like a nitwit whilst those further down the platform have been have been getting in (a major embarrassment in front of the other commuters lol). With regard to people trying to open HST doors, I suspect many have spent several decades of just sticking their arms out the window and opening it when they feel like it and just aren't used to central locking. Also, on a MK3 I think its quite difficult to look at the central locking off light whilst holding the door handle ready.
 

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I must confess to being a quick repeat button pusher. This is partly due to impatience, but also because there have been occasions when the little light bulb around the button hasn't been working and I've been left looking like a nitwit whilst those further down the platform have been have been getting in (a major embarrassment in front of the other commuters lol).

Press and hold the button then. It will open when its released. :lol:
 

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The class 318 makes a god awful 'twang, twang, twang' noise when the doors have been released for opening.

So does almost every other EMU I've ever been on. 334, 320, and while I'ven ot been on it, the Pendolino does too.
 

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I must confess to being a quick repeat button pusher. This is partly due to impatience, but also because there have been occasions when the little light bulb around the button hasn't been working and I've been left looking like a nitwit whilst those further down the platform have been have been getting in (a major embarrassment in front of the other commuters lol). With regard to people trying to open HST doors, I suspect many have spent several decades of just sticking their arms out the window and opening it when they feel like it and just aren't used to central locking. Also, on a MK3 I think its quite difficult to look at the central locking off light whilst holding the door handle ready.

On a MK3 you don't have to see the internal CDL light because on the outside of the coach the big orange lights come on when the doors are unlocked.
 

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350s, and by this logic, 450s, 444s and 185s may also do this - if you press the button once before the doors are released, they will open as soon as they are released. Rather handy I think!
 

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I didn't know doors could be such a hot topic!

when I say abuse I mean the people who press it when it hasn't lit up, sigh and press it again without waiting.. and continue to do so.
 

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Class 320s have the twangs now? I've not heard them, but I'll keep an eye out.

The 318s are awful, but the 334s aren't too bad. The 318s have a tiny speaker inside that makes the noise sound more metalic almost.
 

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350s, and by this logic, 450s, 444s and 185s may also do this - if you press the button once before the doors are released, they will open as soon as they are released. Rather handy I think!

8) I didn't know that - must try it out.

It's the sort of thing I'd expect from the Desiros though - well thought out trains!
 

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I know it doesn't work on 323s.
 

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I can not see how a button can be "Abused" but i think the original poster means "Mis-used",because "Abused" is quite a strong word to use for a Insignificent little thing like a button?!.

Anyway what harm does it do?

Its not like anyones going fall out the train or its going to brake the doors is it,I got to say I do not do it but I have seen plenty of people do it when there in a hurry,I dont see much harm in it because it does not do anything,and the person is not going to achieve anything doing it?
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I know it doesn't work on 323s.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but on 323's you can't even hold the button down whilst you wait can you, you have to actually press it after release?
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yes there certainly is! I can hear the sound in my head lol

Glad I'm not the only one. Of course, the key to CDL is not to keep your weight against the door with the handle down ready to bail whilst the CDL is still engaged, as sometimes the lock won't 'raise' properally unless in the correct position.
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IIRC the doors on the Paris Métro open early and you can step off before the train has completely stopped.

Still get the odd Tube driver over in London who does it properally!
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This sounds like a good case for yet another dose of verbal diarrhoea over the PA, to go with all the other rubbish we are subjected to - a 45 second course on how to operate the train doors.

Believe me, some punters need it!
 
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