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Two HAAs abandoned at A.D.Junction

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I notice that the two HAA-type 2-axle merry-go-round wagons at Newport Alexandra Dock Junction (on the curve to the docks branch) are still there after many years. They appear to be fully-loaded and I presume were once destined for Aberthaw Power Station. I wonder if any readers know what the plans are for these abandoned wagons? I don't think Aberthaw wants them anymore as small trees are growing out of the coal! No scrap merchant would want to be lumbered with a great pile of coal slurry, there's no easy road access and the wagons surely can't now be moved out of the yard. But unless somebody eventually does something they'll be there for ever....

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I would suggest 'being there forever' is probably the most likely scenario! Once an asset itself has been written off (or whatever it is that happens to old wagons, I sometimes wonder if anybody actually cares!), if it isn't in anybody's way then usually it's cheaper to just leave it where it stands. Numerous other locations are home to assorted dumped stuff, for example Southall yard has had a rake or two sat there for donkey's years, Micheldever has what look like a row of covered car flats sat there, etc etc. Same principal applies to lengths of old rail, some old signal posts, buildings and so on. The railway loves to dump stuff!
 
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Oxfordblues said:
I notice that the two HAA-type 2-axle merry-go-round wagons at Newport Alexandra Dock Junction (on the curve to the docks branch) are still there after many years. They appear to be fully-loaded and I presume were once destined for Aberthaw Power Station. I wonder if any readers know what the plans are for these abandoned wagons? I don't think Aberthaw wants them anymore as small trees are growing out of the coal! No scrap merchant would want to be lumbered with a great pile of coal slurry, there's no easy road access and the wagons surely can't now be moved out of the yard. But unless somebody eventually does something they'll be there for ever....

Constructive suggestions welcome!
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they will be there forever I suspect. We have one at Bletchley that must have been there for a very long time. I suspect there was an issue with the wheels/bearings and it wasn't worth the cost/trouble of shifting the thing
 
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Seeing as this thread will immediately become a list of examples of abandoned vehicles I'm getting in early with the Shenfield Shark. And for bonus obscure points some sort of 4 wheeled well wagon that is hidden at the back of Norwich Crown Point.
 
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On a similar subject (sort of), what's the story with the choccy and cream MK1 that appears to have been abandoned in the undergrowth in a fenced yard at Great Malvern? Looks to have a cafe style 'chimney' thing on the roof.
 
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Oxfordblues said:
I notice that the two HAA-type 2-axle merry-go-round wagons at Newport Alexandra Dock Junction (on the curve to the docks branch) are still there after many years. They appear to be fully-loaded and I presume were once destined for Aberthaw Power Station. I wonder if any readers know what the plans are for these abandoned wagons? I don't think Aberthaw wants them anymore as small trees are growing out of the coal! No scrap merchant would want to be lumbered with a great pile of coal slurry, there's no easy road access and the wagons surely can't now be moved out of the yard. But unless somebody eventually does something they'll be there for ever....

Constructive suggestions welcome!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merry-go-round_train

They appear to belong to the Chasewater Railway according to our good old friend Wikipedia.
 
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Wasn't there a preservation group a few years ago which was trying to save as many of the few remaining HAA hoppers as they could?
 
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Wasn't there a preservation group a few years ago which was trying to save as many of the few remaining HAA hoppers as they could?
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Both the Class 58 Group (in 2011) and Class 56 Group (in 2014) set up appeals to save multiple examples of the surviving MGR coal hoppers - The former seemed to quietly fizzle out, and the latter in 2015 announced more modest intentions to purchase a single wagon - I'm unsure of the outcome of this. There were a couple of threads on the forum at the time, such as this one:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/project-mgr-appeal.108582/

The Chasewater Railway have the longest preserved rake of HAA hoppers at present, with five wagons, which they hope to expand to six.
 
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What's the deal with the two old tankers (no idea what their formal name is) at Ponsandane Sidings, Penzance, opposite Sainsbury's and the former heliport? They've been there at least 20 years...
 
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Thanks Malcmal. I presume the Chasewater are seeking to raise funds to remove the wagons by road. But I have to say it's a poor advertisement for DB Cargo to leave loaded wagons visible from the main line which have been abandoned for so long that trees are growing out of them!
 
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For a long time there were two hoppers just south of Bolton. think they are now removed following the catenary works, would love to see how they did it.
 
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The Longsight translator. Is that ever going to see meaningful use again? Don't think it's been used since the last HST left Longsight.
 
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There's also what appears to be some Class 08 wheelsets just sat in the Longsight yard!
 
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I remember there were some tank waggons lying in the bushes at the bottom of an embankment. Somewhere in the Derby area I think, used to see them travelling north on XC services to the north east, late 90s early 2000s
I assumed they had been involved in a derailment and been too costly to recover. Wonder if they're still there.
 
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On a recent journey between Didcot Parkway & Oxford, I believe there were 2 x HAA wagons stored away in the yards just to the West of Didcot. Unfortunately I couldn't make out their numbers.
 
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There a MK1 BG RES at Plymouth, I think it could be at Tavistock on a siding. I don't know the number of could anybody help me.
 
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What's the deal with the two old tankers (no idea what their formal name is) at Ponsandane Sidings, Penzance, opposite Sainsbury's and the former heliport? They've been there at least 20 years...
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Are they TEA tanks.
 
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The MHA wagon at Banbury Castle yard is still there loaded with stone and a tail lamp on it.
 
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Oxfordblues said:
Thanks Malcmal. I presume the Chasewater are seeking to raise funds to remove the wagons by road. But I have to say it's a poor advertisement for DB Cargo to leave loaded wagons visible from the main line which have been abandoned for so long that trees are growing out of them!
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Digressing slightly, but tocs, focs network rail and other owners should be forced to remove what is often a rusting pile of scrap metal from yards and sidings across the UK. It is a very bad advertisement for the rail network as a whole. While I'm on a digressing rant, this also applies to the assorted shrubs and trees that grow out of brickwork, gutters and any other orifices at stations, bridges, tunnels, viaducts as well poorly maintained trackside. It looks bad and must be causing damage in many cases. Don't even get me started about trees on scenic routes like the S&C or WHL :)
 
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All comes down to money at the end of the day.

If a wagon is red carded, then you would need a wagon fitter or similar to attend in a van, and that is assuming the fault is repairable without having to jack it up or use a crane to lift it.
 
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There are various wagons slowly getting buried in the bushes behind Knottingley station. I can't see them moving unless platforms were ever rebuilt on the Doncaster line.
 
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