Xenophon PCDGS
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How are matters progressing at present on this new line and is there a provisional date when it may be opened from Whitechapel to Abbey Wood.
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Elizabeth Line---Abbey Wood Branch
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Bromley boy
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The new track was laid long ago, the knitting is now up and energised (and has been for some months), Crossrail trains have been used for testing in the area and a couple of units seem to be stored there semi permanently.
Abbey Wood station has been completely rebuilt in preparation for the line opening and these works are now largely complete.
There is still a great deal of construction activity in what will become the Crossrail maintenance depot/stabling sidings.
I should add the above is based on my observations rather than first hand knowledge so welcome any correction/embellishment from someone more knowledgeable about the details.
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The date is aimed for the December timetable change on the 9th December 2018 as the official opening. Whether that is met due to the late running construction remains to be seen.
As stated, Abbey Wood has been rebuilt and reopened and is currently managed by TfL Rail even though no TfL Rail trains operate there yet.
As stated, Abbey Wood has been rebuilt and reopened and is currently managed by TfL Rail even though no TfL Rail trains operate there yet.
FlippyFF
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Do we think there may be a public ''preview' service ahead of the 9th December?
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iphone76
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I doubt it very much. Later this year testing will involve running a full service all day, however, these will not be passenger workings.
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It appears that Abbey Wood has a new three letter code ABX (on Real time trains as "Abbey Wood (Crossrail)"). Is this just for the current empty stock movements, or will the station actually be split in two in the timetabling system?
It has also been allocated an NLC of 7733. Interestingly, it is referred to as Abbey Wood Crossrail.
Dstock7080
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Internal rumblings that Whitechapel station may not be ready for opening in December, with services non-stopping until it’s ready.
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Does anyone know if the Elizebeth line will have a 24hr service during week end?
There has been no official announcement, but I think I recall one of the Crossrail progress videos mentioning that such a service could be rolled out fairly soon after launch.
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On real time trains website, there are services listed on the Elizabeth line/crossrail from July 29th. They are all listed as (unadvertised ordinary passenger) between Abbey Wood Crossrail and Paddington Crossrail.
matt_world2004
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It would make sense for the night GwR services to be under the elizabeth line banner IMHO
Xenophon PCDGS
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Will all the stations on this particular line be issued with their own three-letter station code and if so, can someone be so kind as to post a full list of these on this thread.
methethpropbut
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I personally prefer the Lizard Line
Xenophon PCDGS
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Why does that suddenly remind me of the Helston area?
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I imagine there's an element of careful phasing as well: make sure the core is working perfectly, add in the easier of the branches (to Shenfield), then add in the Western, with the timetable changes governing when things can happen to some extent. Don't want another Thameslink...
I would think that they would, but they aren't all yet allocates. Using @pdeaves's site, Abbey wood is ABX, but I can't see any others as of yet. I would expect them all to be similarly patterned though, so Paddington would become PAX, Whitechapel would be WHX, etc. The only thing that might scupper that are all the "XYZ for the games" destinations on that site, but assuming that's referring to the Olympics I don't see any reason why they would still need to be on the system
The tunnels are complete, it's just to ensure routes can't affect each other until they're ready to run a proper robust service.
As planned, there are no signalling changeovers.
pdeaves
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Crossrail has its own 'internal' codes as shown on http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/crs/CRS1.shtm (scroll down below CIE). Lots of codes are the same as national rail ones so it remains to be seen whether the central core will follow suit.
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None of the stations out west have finished works. The old stations won't be able to deal with the new amount of people. You can see it at Ealing Broadway and Hayes already. They should be step free but I don't think any are at the moment?
If they finish the main 4 stations by 2019 I'll eat my hat.
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I doubt very much Crossrail will have the same issues as Thameslink is going through now, for one thing there’s are less branches, and I’m certain the drivers will be properly trained up too, it also helps that it’s opening in stages.
matt_world2004
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Another reason its opening in stages is because there will not be enough rolling stock to deliver a 24 tph and reading branch service also going from 0tph to 24 tph overnight would be a recipe for disaster.
cactustwirly
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Even though it's still a GWR service with GWR drivers and stock.
I agree with you when Crossrail finally reaches Reading in just under 2 years time.
Reading will be 4tph at most.
matt_world2004
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Sorry for the misunderstanding, I was talking about the core going from 0tph to 24 tph as well as providing stock for the reading branch service
Yeah, I was referring to when the service goes to reading in two years time. I believe the current plan has it remaining with gwr even after the full launch of crossrail. Which would be anomalous.
cactustwirly
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Is there access to the Main lines from Paddington LL?
matt_world2004
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Yes there is CR will operate on the fasts during engineering works and for ECS moves .
Drivers also will retain the ability to divert into paddington Mainline should there be engineering works in the core.
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