The 466 is tendered, so I doubt it. Red Express is run by Lancashire United. The 464 is meant to be getting new buses later this year, but I don't know when. They could transfer to Rosso but stay at Burnley depot, in which case they might appear on the 483.
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The 466 is tendered, so I doubt it. Red Express is run by Lancashire United. The 464 is meant to be getting new buses later this year, but I don't know when. They could transfer to Rosso but stay at Burnley depot, in which case they might appear on the 483.
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With the Presidents going, and new timetables for the 469 and 481/2/3 seeing improvements at those times of day, are Rosso about to drop a load of school work?
Is always difficult to be sure WYIS predicted changes actually occur as (Transdev) Blazefield frequently seem to have eleventh hour changes of mind. Keighley is shown as losing the 19 Metro owned BMC220s school buses which might explain the need their for more vehicles. Then there are a stack of withdrawn B10BLEs listed as being for disposal but not unknown for such vehicles to be reactivated and for school use fitted out as 57 seaters, so the movement of the Presidents from Rosso may or may not indicate the loss of school services - a case of wait and see.
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Metro (WYCA) are phasing out the yellow school buses, hence their withdrawal. They are being replaced by standard DD buses, albeit with appropriate exhaust treatment to bring them up to equivalent emission levels. I assume the planned transfer of the Presidents to Keighley is part of this process. I understand that Rosso’s TfGM requirement for DD buses is also reducing from September, which probably explains why there are less DDs coming in, than there are going out.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Rossobus/status/1021692633830318081
A more detailed impression of the new 464 colour scheme. Apparently due in September. Elsewhere on the web there are rumours Rosso has more serious problems than just failing to provide the advertised service.
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According to the WYIS fleet list there have been loads of allocation changes since the 24th July.
The solos have all moved to Rochdale which must mean the Bury locals are now run from there rather than Burnley.
Burnley now only have one small bus allocated which must be for the Rawtenstall locals.
Intack no longer has any double decks allocated. They used to do which meant doubles appeared on some journeys on the 464 & 484
The solos have all moved to Rochdale which must mean the Bury locals are now run from there rather than Burnley.
Burnley now only have one small bus allocated which must be for the Rawtenstall locals.
Intack no longer has any double decks allocated. They used to do which meant doubles appeared on some journeys on the 464 & 484
Or to put it another way the only Rosso vehicles now not allocated to Rochdale are 6 B7RLEs at Intack, and a Dart (ex Keighley 710),10 B7RLEs and 10 Geminis at Burnley.
The Dart is being used on Rawtenstall locals - Flickr photo https://www.flickr.com/photos/132545487@N06/42980122594/
The Dart is being used on Rawtenstall locals - Flickr photo https://www.flickr.com/photos/132545487@N06/42980122594/
I believe it was mentioned somewhere else that the Wright Solor's are being replaced by the end of the year I believe. Presumably due to the being non standard compared to the Volvo B7s.
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There are 16 B7RLEs on the Rosso Blackburn allocation: 1706/7/10/2 & 1714-25, plus the 3 ‘Blazefield’ Presidents: 2707/17/8.
The Rosso Burnley allocation is as you mention: 1726-35, 2781-90 plus 710.
Yup miscounted on the Intack B7RLEs. 2707/18/19 are no longer shown by WYIS as being on loan to Rosso but listed as at Keighley with a footnote that they might not have returned from Rosso.
All the Wight Solars and 7 B7RLEs are listed as being "withdrawn later in 2018."
All the Wight Solars and 7 B7RLEs are listed as being "withdrawn later in 2018."
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I wouldn’t be surprised if the Presidents return to Keighley in time for the new school term. It’s that time of year when the PVR drops during the summer holidays, and then often lots of contract changes as the new academic year begins. There has certainly been lots of registration changes submitted by Rosso and Keighley & District for new, varied and cancelled school services from early Sep.
I wonder where the Versas will be allocated when they turn up. The 464 was split between Intack and Rochdale but I can’t imagine that being something Transdev would want to continue in the long term. The fact there are 16 B7RLEs at Intack and 16 Versas due suggests they might be running it all out on Intack?
I thought they would want their shiny new buses out of a proper depot such as Intack rather than a muddy field like Rochdale! Although R'dale would make a more logical base being so close to one end of the 464 IMO.
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Intack already has 18 2016 Versas, so basing them there might simplify maintenance a bit. Won't help with the evening service, which already finishes much earlier going towards Rochdale.
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The 464 has been operated exclusively by Intack since the recent timetable change, with the 484 moving to Rochdale at the same time. Therefore the new Versas for the 464 will all be based at Intack.
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I feel that the name Rosso is out of date. The depot at Haslingden has closed and services are now run from Rochdale in Greater Manchester and Blackburn. Neither of these are in Rossendale Borough.
Most of their routes have been outside Rossendale for years anyway. Calling it the ' Bus Company' wouldn't make much sense, and if they did Rossendale would surely be most likely. Lancashire United might work of course, but something new and shiny has come along since then. If the (commercial) network ends up being reduced to just the 464 Rosso would be fine.
There are 14 464 arrrivals at Rochdale 6pm onwards but only 9 464 departures
There are 10 464 departures from Rochdale before 8am (and two starting at Healey Corner) but only 5 arrivals
so logically Rochdale ought to have a share in the working of the service but then they do like to base services at a single depot despite the excessive not in service mileage such as working the Little Explorers solely out of York , rather than sharing with Starbeck (The same could be said of the now deceased Leeds-Manchester Cityzap and 62 to Harrogate)
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I get 7 out of 13 starting from the Rochdale end, so perhaps none should be based at Intack but all at Rochdale!
Ex CityZap buses are being repainted into what looks to be the base of the 467/8 livery.
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It looks more red to me, as opposed to orange on the other buses. The first reply showing up to Alex Hornby's tweet is a complaint that the 'strategy' of painting every bus a different colour is already confusing passengers.
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They’re for the Red4 service, so I think red is quite likely!
Ever been in Nottingham ? Everyone there must be highly confused.
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