Scotrail Class 385 Discussion

adrock1976 · 3 Aug 2018

Regarding the Maryhill Park line, although this is an unscientific observation, these are the first services to get cancelled during disruption.

Also, the areas where the stations are located along the line have a high proportion of residents who do not have access to a private car, despite a very poor bus service that halfheartedly connects the areas to each other such as Kelvindale to Maryhill and Anniesland being every 60 minutes with no Sunday service.

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NotATrainspott · 3 Aug 2018

InOban said:
Except for capacity through the flat junction at Cowlairs and the single track, wrong line working through Westerton!

Which is why you use the existing Maryhill paths, not extra ones. These redirected North Clyde line services would call at the usual stations on the Maryhill route, minus Anniesland and Kelvindale. Therefore, there would be no difference to the pathing and timetabling at Queen Street HL. The only possible reason for a change to be made would be due to the increased length of the EMUs running on the route.

The single-line working at Westerton isn't going to be a problem either, because this entire re-routing would only happen due to engineering works. It's not a realistic nor desirable normal service pattern. However, if there's a planned blockage between Hyndland and Partick, this essentially disconnects the entire rail service north-west of Glasgow. Therefore, there'd be an effective clean slate available to make the timetable work. The entire timetable would be written around when Maryhill trains would be able to present themselves at Knightswood North junction on their existing path out of Queen Street.

Again, this is not an idea about a normal everyday service. It's just a newly-available option to keep the rail network going when there's a need to block Hyndland to Partick.

route101 · 3 Aug 2018

SC318250 said:
With the press release saying 7 or 8 coach trains on Edi to Gla next week, then I suspect it will be

4 x 8 car 365
2 x 7 car 380
2 x 7 car 385

Or

4 x 8 car 365
3 x 7 car 380
1 x 7 car 385

Think there is enough 318/320 availability to get another 3 car 380 from Inverclyde to add to the 4 car 380 running about on E&G.

Are there many 318/320 s on the Inverclyde s at the moment?

Fleetwood Boy · 3 Aug 2018

route101 said:
Are there many 318/320 s on the Inverclyde s at the moment?

One round trip on a Saturday Only.

route101 · 3 Aug 2018

Fleetwood Boy said:
One round trip on a Saturday Only.

Do you have a time for this?

SC318250 · 3 Aug 2018

Tonight’s delivery cancelled

Voyager lad · 4 Aug 2018

Today, the 385 pair was operating xx00 services, odd hours from Queen Street and even from Waverley. Had my first journey on one today and I have to say I thought they were a bit bland and overrated. I personally prefer the 380s on EG services. But that’s just my opinion

GaryMcEwan · 4 Aug 2018

I experienced the 385 for the first time on Thursday. Wasn't overly enthralled by it.

Actually prefer the 365s doing the route...

route101 · 4 Aug 2018

GaryMcEwan said:
I experienced the 385 for the first time on Thursday. Wasn't overly enthralled by it.

Actually prefer the 365s doing the route...

Aye there not that exciting , the thing for me is the EMUs faster acceleration . The seating layout is great if you love bays of 4 .

GaryMcEwan · 4 Aug 2018

route101 said:
Aye there not that exciting , the thing for me is the EMUs faster acceleration . The seating layout is great if you love bays of 4 .

Not a fan of a table of 4. Much prefer airline seating these days.

route101 · 4 Aug 2018

GaryMcEwan said:
Not a fan of a table of 4. Much prefer airline seating these days.

Same here the 365s are quite good for it .

On long journeys tend to avoid bays of 4 as if gets busy you can find yourself surrounded by a group or turfed out . Seen that on a pendo a few weeks ago , the lady was asked by a group of 4 ladies to move as they wanted the bay of 4 .

Stopper · 4 Aug 2018

The 365s have been pretty terrible so far. I’ll be glad to see them replaced with 385s personally.

route101 · 4 Aug 2018

In what way?

317 forever · 4 Aug 2018

92002 said:
Today's recent Departures from Queen Street show
1245 158
1300 385
1315 385
1330 158
In reality more likely to be
1245 1x 365
1300 2x 380
1315 2x 385
1330 2x 365
Unless more 385s have started today.

I spent the weekend of May 26th / 27th in Edinburgh. As my hotel was in Polmont I rode class 170s on Saturday evening and Sunday morning. This now feels like it was of a historic era!

route101 · 4 Aug 2018

317 forever said:
I spent the weekend of Mat 26th / 27th in Edinburgh. As my hotel was in Polmont I rode class 170s on Saturday evening and Sunday morning. This now feels like it was of a historic era!

Seen a picture today of 170 on the route today , can confirm though

Highlandspring · 4 Aug 2018

route101 said:
In what way?

There were six on multi-only restrictions and three outright failures today alone. I concur, they have been dreadful since they arrived.

317 forever · 4 Aug 2018

route101 said:
Seen a picture today of 170 on the route today , can confirm though

Maybe these are occasional mainly weekend workings while staff training continues.

route101 · 4 Aug 2018

317 forever said:
Maybe these are occasional mainly weekend workings while staff training continues.

Last tuesday there was a 6 car set . Few days ago was all EMU

Highlandspring · 4 Aug 2018

As of the start of last week class 170s now only step up to cover for failures. Otherwise the E&G is all electric traction daily.

GrimShady · 5 Aug 2018

I'm looking forward to trying one out. I hate the bland look of the 380 units..far too clinical.

Just a thought, do Hitachi make diesel versions of this series?

Voyager lad · 5 Aug 2018

GrimShady said:
I'm looking forward to trying one out. I hate the bland look of the 380 units..far too clinical.

Just a thought, do Hitachi make diesel versions of this series?

If you think the 380s are clinical, I find the 385s even more clinical. Far too bland

Macwomble · 5 Aug 2018

Voyager lad said:
If you think the 380s are clinical, I find the 385s even more clinical. Far too bland

Personally I couldn't care less what a train/unit looks like.....as long as it gets me from "A to B"...that all I care about.

mde · 5 Aug 2018

Voyager lad said:
If you think the 380s are clinical, I find the 385s even more clinical. Far too bland

What were you expecting?

GrimShady · 5 Aug 2018

Voyager lad said:
If you think the 380s are clinical, I find the 385s even more clinical. Far too bland

Surely the addition of carpets give the units a slightly better ambiance than the 380. As I said I haven't been on one yet however by the looks of it the lighting could do with being subdued especially in first class. Speaking of which no curtains or table lamps...disappointing!

380101 · 5 Aug 2018

GrimShady said:
Surely the addition of carpets give the units a slightly better ambiance than the 380. As I said I haven't been on one yet however by the looks of it the lighting could do with being subdued especially in first class. Speaking of which no curtains or table lamps...disappointing!

The carpets will be fine for a week or 2, then once the winter comes they'll be manky with wet, salty feet traipsing over them along with spilt beer/wine and sickness mixed in for good measure! carpets in a commuter train are not ideal - especially on some of the routes the 385 will work eg; Cathcart Cirle etc.

GrimShady · 5 Aug 2018

380101 said:
The carpets will be fine for a week or 2, then once the winter comes they'll be manky with wet, salty feet traipsing over them along with spilt beer/wine and sickness mixed in for good measure! carpets in a commuter train are not ideal - especially on some of the routes the 385 will work eg; Cathcart Cirle etc.

Maybe so not but the E&G units should have them.

Stopper · 5 Aug 2018

I’ve never considered the 170 carpets too bad on the E-G, the 158s to Dunblane however....

GrimShady · 5 Aug 2018

I'll never understand the modern obsession with full on bright lights in the coach.

CJSwan · 5 Aug 2018

Stopper said:
I’ve never considered the 170 carpets too bad on the E-G, the 158s to Dunblane however....

The carpets in the vestibules on the 170s are in the main horribly stained with all sorts.

swaldman · 5 Aug 2018

GrimShady said:
Surely the addition of carpets give the units a slightly better ambiance than the 380. As I said I haven't been on one yet however by the looks of it the lighting could do with being subdued especially in first class. Speaking of which no curtains or table lamps...disappointing!

I hate first class table lamps (at least on the 158s. Not sure I've encountered them elsewhere).
They block up the table, leaving less room for the multiple laptops that the occupants want to put there!

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