Cornish Class 802 Introduction

co-tr-paul · 9 Aug 2018

This is more for information and putting it in one place rather than the various threads on the IETs spread across RUKF.

The plan is to introduce the first 802s on 20th august 2018 and the following information is from non-sensitive internal memos which may be useful to some.

Acceptance dates:
802003 and 005 15 aug
006 and 007 17 aug
003 and 005 req to be at Laira Depot (LA) for start of service 20 aug; these sets are due to me moved from Stoke Gifford eve of 15 or am of 16 aug
17 aug one of these to go to Penzance for depot clearance and depot staff training then to headback to LA via Exeter for a low key launch event
006 and 007 req to be at North Pole for start of service 20 aug
consideration of putting 006/007 together on a 800 diagram on sat finishing at North Pole as a positioning move
plans are to run all 6 5car sets until next two are accepted on 29 aug with 9car 101 acting as spare with 001 and 002 as last minute standby subject to training requirements

Of course, this may all be subject to a butterfly in a distant jungle flapping its wings .....!!!

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Warwick · 9 Aug 2018

Thankyou for that. I shan't be holding my breath. Strangely I'm up to Reading (for Gatwick) on the 20th so I may have a ride in one.

Sean Emmett · 10 Aug 2018

Yes thanks very much for this. From the diagram thread I understand the first 'regular' workings will be the 05.53 Plymouth (PLY) - London Paddington (PAD) and 07.30 PAD - Penzance (PNZ) via BRI. Is this still the case?

co-tr-paul · 10 Aug 2018

Last I knew of. Just beware that butterfly !

83G/84D · 16 Aug 2018

802005 became the first of the class and First ever Hitachi unit to arrive at GWR Long Rock depot a few minutes ago. It is due to leave tomorrow morning.

Bringback309s · 17 Aug 2018

At Penzance now, preparing for a preview run to Exeter - live on GWR facebook. http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V08339/2018/08/17/advanced

michael74 · 17 Aug 2018

Has anyone checked the weather forecast to ensure a Voyager doesn't get stranded on the sea wall in front of it :lol:

Class465fan · 17 Aug 2018

Make sure to bring an umbrella next time. You don't want to get yourself wet like what happened last time with the class 800 introduction day. :lol:

Devonman2014 · 20 Aug 2018

802005 leading 003 did indeed work the 05:53 Plymouth toPadd this morning.

Doomotron · 20 Aug 2018

Some have said that the seats on the Class 802 are nicer than on the 800? Can someone please explain this because the seats look identical to me.

Master29 · 20 Aug 2018

I noticed on the youtube clip Mark Hopwood gets virtually everything wrong about the 802`s. Says a lot really.

pdeaves · 20 Aug 2018

Devonman2014 said:
802005 leading 003 did indeed work the 05:53 Plymouth toPadd this morning.

And, for the record, 802007+802006 worked 0730 Paddington-Penzance via Bristol

irish_rail · 20 Aug 2018

Doomotron said:
Some have said that the seats on the Class 802 are nicer than on the 800? Can someone please explain this because the seats look identical to me.

They are worse in my opinion. Same awful non padded upright seat but covered with a different fabric. I found the seat even less comfortable than an 800 seat . The future is here and it's painful..........

Doomotron · 20 Aug 2018

irish_rail said:
They are worse in my opinion. Same awful non padded upright seat but covered with a different fabric. I found the seat even less comfortable than an 800 seat.

More seats = more passengers = more money. Comfort doesn't matter because you've got to remember that railways are a business.

bnm · 20 Aug 2018

Yes, the railways are a business. Not sure why that's an issue. And seat comfort is subjective. I've done 3 hours on one journey in a Class 800 and was not at all discomfited during the journey, or any the worse for it afterward.

Bletchleyite · 20 Aug 2018

Doomotron said:
More seats = more passengers = more money. Comfort doesn't matter because you've got to remember that railways are a business.

But that's not true of the 80x. First of all the spec was by a civil servant. Secondly, the actual *spacing* is the most generous of any current UK stock - if they wanted to cram seats in they could have done, but they haven't.

ainsworth74 · 20 Aug 2018

Please note that this thread is not yet another opportunity to discuss the merits or otherwise of whichever seat people are currently in love with or wish to burn with fire. Please use either an existing appropriate thread or start a new thread if anyone wishes to discuss their subjective opinion on seat comfort.

Many thanks,
ainsworth74

83G/84D · 7 Sep 2018

802007 is on long Rock depot having arrived from North Pole today. A 10 car IET is booked onto Long Rock on 13th September for depot trials.

83G/84D · 8 Sep 2018

802101 working the 0730 Paddington - Penzance and 1400 Penzance - Paddington.

HOOVER29 · 8 Sep 2018

I saw a fair few IEP’s during last week on holiday at Dawlish.
A lot of Hst’s from GWR & CrossCountry.
A couple of surprises were two GWR class 158’s, one in green the other in the old colours, also 2x37’s & a couple of freights. Good weather too.
Back home in damp Leicestershire now, ah well.

100andthirty · 8 Sep 2018

Does anyone know whether the engines on the class 802 are operating at the 700kW rating that was publicised when the trains were ordered?

co-tr-paul · 8 Sep 2018

83G/84D said:
802007 is on long Rock depot having arrived from North Pole today. A 10 car IET is booked onto Long Rock on 13th September for depot trials.

Already know 9/10 car won't fit in the yard !

83G/84D · 8 Sep 2018

co-tr-paul said:
Already know 9/10 car won't fit in the yard !

Yes, and they are all planned to be 10 cars to / from Penzance by end of October afaik.

Next weeks trial is to see if a 10 car set can fit in Old Bank amongst other things!

Probably no again.

co-tr-paul · 8 Sep 2018

.....to load broccoli

83G/84D · 8 Sep 2018

co-tr-paul said:
.....to load broccoli

I remember that going by rail!

Reminds me of a story told by a former work colleague who said a loaded fish van got taken off a up train at Truro due to a hot box and put in the sidings.
It was then forgotten about and the fish went off, the people living in Dobb's Lane in Truro weren't happy.

Bringback309s · 9 Oct 2018

802101 on London to Penzance and return the last couple of days, and 2 x five car units on 2C47 Plymouth - Penzance and 2E89 return this evening

59CosG95 · 6 Nov 2018

To bring this thread back to the front, all the 802/0s have now arrived in the UK. 802102 is also en route from Pistoia.

irish_rail · 6 Nov 2018

802102 is at North pole.
Noted 802019 has GWR logo on its nose, not seen any others like it

reddragon · 9 Nov 2018

802.021/22 were at the North Poe this week, just arrived?

59CosG95 · 9 Nov 2018

reddragon said:
802.021/22 were at the North Poe this week, just arrived?

Yes - they were the last 2 802/0s to be delivered, last week. 802102 was delivered this week.

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