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How do I find out the stations in the Harrow Station Group?

I noticed this as an option when I was doing a journey enquiry with National Rail.

I would like to travel from the NorthWest to Harrow-on-the-Hill and back from Kenton (or Harrow & Wealdstone) with an Open off-peak return over the weekend 8-9 September.
 
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There is no Harrow Stations group for ticketing purposes.

An off-peak return ticket to London Terminals would certainly suffice for what you’re wanting to do, though there may be cheaper options.
 
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island said:
There is no Harrow Stations group for ticketing purposes.

An off-peak return ticket to London Terminals would certainly suffice for what you’re wanting to do, though there may be cheaper options.
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That would not be valid for London - Harrow on the Hill though? Oyster/Contactless for that.

The NRE reference to Harrow Stations is odd, though.
 
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London Marylebone to Harrow-on-the-Hill is a National Rail route and is of course valid.
 
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Ready to stand corrected, but I doubt a ticket to London Terminals would be valid for a journey into London then onto the tube up to HOH. You could presumably use Chiltern coming south to HOH and then break your journey there to exit.

However, you haven't said where you're actually coming from, but you could have your ticket issued to an LU destination - as an example
http://www.brfares.com/#!fares?orig=HHD&dest=ZHB
That's from Holyhead to High Barnet LU. That'd issue you a ticket to Underground Zones 1245, and would give you a single LU journey within zones 1 to 5 on both the outward and return portion. You could use this for any journey on LU within the valid zones; it wouldn't have to relate to your route. However, break of journey is not permitted on the LU portion.
 
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Agree there’s no “Harrow Stations” fare group, however you can select “Harrow All Stations” as a destination on National Rail Enquiries drop down menu and for certain origins, such as Banbury, it gives times for 2 separate destinations, either Sudbury Hill Harrow, and Harrow on the Hill via Marylebone.

Is it attempting to help people who don’t actually know which station they want?
 
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I was not trying to suggest the OP ever actually go into London, just finish short on the way out and start short on the way back.
 
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island said:
London Marylebone to Harrow-on-the-Hill is a National Rail route and is of course valid.
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It's valid on a ticket to Harrow-on-the-Hill, and valid for one to Zone U1245. It's also valid on a "via High Wycombe" ticket from somewhere like Wrexham to London. It's not valid on any ticket from northwest England to London Terminals, though.

This isn't to say that class17 can't find a combination of tickets which is more suitable than those ones, of course.
 
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I hadn’t looked, but I am shocked if a ticket from (say) Liverpool to London isn’t valid to Birmingham and onwards to High Wycombe and Marylebone, and would be even more shocked if despite the lack of validity it were questioned by a member of rail staff. It would have fit within the reasonable route concept back in the day.
 
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I hadn’t looked, but I am shocked if a ticket from (say) Liverpool to London isn’t valid to Birmingham and onwards to High Wycombe and Marylebone, and would be even more shocked if despite the lack of validity it were questioned by a member of rail staff. It would have fit within the reasonable route concept back in the day.
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It's not that it's not valid that way, but as the primary diversionary route it's going to be unbelievably busy.
 
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island said:
I hadn’t looked, but I am shocked if a ticket from (say) Liverpool to London isn’t valid to Birmingham and onwards to High Wycombe and Marylebone, and would be even more shocked if despite the lack of validity it were questioned by a member of rail staff. It would have fit within the reasonable route concept back in the day.
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But even it it were I wouldn't expect validity to HoH as that is not on the route via High Wycombe.
 
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I'd want to know exactly what ticket is held before advising, but Contactless PAYG would very possibly be a good option for the journey.
 
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