GWR Intercity Express Train (IEP) initial diagrams & allocations

DaveHarries · 27 Aug 2018

Effective 05-Sep-2018:

5A77 0510 Penzance T&RMSD - Penzance
1A77 0541 Penzance - Paddington, via. Westbury
1C80 1203 Paddington - Penzance, via. Westbury
1A35 1742 Penzance - Paddington via. Bristol Temple Meads
5A35 Paddington - North Pole IEP Depot

Are all booked Class 800 / 802. Certainly all the way through to the end of October so I guess this is permanent. I can't tell what the diagram is which supplies the unit for 5A77 for the next day.

Dave

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Nozzacook · 27 Aug 2018

DaveHarries said:
Effective 05-Sep-2018:

5A77 0510 Penzance T&RMSD - Penzance
1A77 0541 Penzance - Paddington, via. Westbury
1C80 1203 Paddington - Penzance, via. Westbury
1A35 1742 Penzance - Paddington via. Bristol Temple Meads
5A35 Paddington - North Pole IEP Depot

Are all booked Class 800 / 802. Certainly all the way through to the end of October so I guess this is permanent. I can't tell what the diagram is which supplies the unit for 5A77 for the next day.

Dave

Any idea as to which service will be will be terminating at Penzance to stable the 80x at Long Rock. To enable the above. Thanks.

cactustwirly · 27 Aug 2018

Nozzacook said:
Any idea as to which service will be will be terminating at Penzance to stable the 80x at Long Rock. To enable the above. Thanks.

Probably the 1803 PAD - PNZ, which is the 1204 PNZ - PAD

matt · 27 Aug 2018

cactustwirly said:
Probably the 1803 PAD - PNZ, which is the 1204 PNZ - PAD

It was quoted earlier by @Clarence Yard that the 06:35 from Paddington which forms the 12:04 back will become on IET from the 24/09.

Clarence Yard · 27 Aug 2018

DaveHarries said:
Effective 05-Sep-2018:

5A77 0510 Penzance T&RMSD - Penzance
1A77 0541 Penzance - Paddington, via. Westbury
1C80 1203 Paddington - Penzance, via. Westbury
1A35 1742 Penzance - Paddington via. Bristol Temple Meads
5A35 Paddington - North Pole IEP Depot

Are all booked Class 800 / 802. Certainly all the way through to the end of October so I guess this is permanent. I can't tell what the diagram is which supplies the unit for 5A77 for the next day.

Dave

Everyone, please stop reading these 5th September dates as the introduction dates. These are LTP “block periods” and the actual dates will be altered to the correct Monday start date by STP. 24th September is the next date for diagram cut over and that will only happen if enough units appear and enough drivers are trained by then.

43096 · 27 Aug 2018

jimm said:
It's IET - InterCity Express Train, the GWR brand for the units, as opposed to IEP, which is the Inter City Express Programme, which was the government programme to acquire the trains.

Other, unofficial, names are also available....

... like “Super Hitachi Intercity Train”.

Mag_seven · 27 Aug 2018

Clarence Yard said:
Everyone, please stop reading these 5th September dates as the introduction dates. These are LTP “block periods” and the actual dates will be altered to the correct Monday start date by STP. 24th September is the next date for diagram cut over and that will only happen if enough units appear and enough drivers are trained by then.

LTP = Long Term Plan
STP = Short Term Plan

I assume?

Clarence Yard · 27 Aug 2018

Mag_seven said:
LTP = Long Term Plan
STP = Short Term Plan

I assume?

Yes. The GWR Train planning set up is slightly different to most others in that the LTP planners plan everything on the block dates only and the fill in is dealt with by the STP planners, even if it actually an LTP adjustment.

So you may find a block date plan in RTT which will then be subsequently altered by STP to bring it backwards or forwards to the correct date. Ideally this would all happen as one but such is the current pressure on the GWR STP team that the STP alteration may well appear later.

leedstraindude · 28 Aug 2018

D1009 said:
Just a reminder 19th Sept is during the 3 week closure of Bristol Parkway. South Wales divert via Bath to Patchway, and are reduced to hourly from Paddington departing 15 past the hour.

Cheers for that. Will try get some seat reservations made.

jimm · 28 Aug 2018

The 06.42 from Hereford to Paddington is now being worked by an IET, though a five-car set turned up today. Was rather cosy from Charlbury and Hanborough as far as Oxford as a result.

D1009 · 28 Aug 2018

Does anyone know the 802 diagrams during the current Newbury block?

cactustwirly · 28 Aug 2018

D1009 said:
Does anyone know the 802 diagrams during the current Newbury block?

0730 PAD - PNZ 1313
1400 PNZ - PAD 1945

D1009 · 28 Aug 2018

cactustwirly said:
0730 PAD - PNZ 1313
1400 PNZ - PAD 1945

Thanks, hopefully that will take the pressure off a bit. Having 4 5 car sets for 2 10 car diagrams was pushing it.

sciisfun · 30 Aug 2018

Hey, does anyone know if there are any 80x's running to Penzance Saturday? wanna try and catch one while i'm out on a jolly

cactustwirly · 30 Aug 2018

0730 PAD - PNZ and 1203 PAD - PNZ are usually 802s on Saturdays.

D1009 · 30 Aug 2018

Can anyone tell me whether 1C22 1630 Padd to Taunton and 1A98 2026 Taunton to Padd are 800 or 802 tonight?

JN114 · 30 Aug 2018

D1009 said:
Can anyone tell me whether 1C22 1630 Padd to Taunton and 1A98 2026 Taunton to Padd are 800 or 802 tonight?

800020 and 800013

Sean Emmett · 2 Sep 2018

Today's 15.45 PGN PAD via BRI is 800 305.

cambsy · 4 Sep 2018

Am on short formed 07.30 Paddington-Penzance, 5 coaches today and 80012, be interesting see how it copes with the South Devon banks, am going to Penzance, back on 14.00.

CMRail · 4 Sep 2018

It seems that the following diagrams switched from HST to IET on Monday

1742 Paddington - Cheltenham
1837 Paddington - Cheltenham
2120 Cheltenham - Temple Meads (onto Stoke Gifford)

31160 · 4 Sep 2018

Is there any up to date full diagram list for these or is the situation to "fluid" to keep it up to date?

Siemens Staines · 4 Sep 2018

As fluid as the River Thames from what I can tell. As has been mentioned previously there is no increase in the total number of IET diagrams this week, but there seems to have been a lot of swaps between which trains are booked IET, which are booked hst and which are booked turbo (Thames Valley). So while there are some trains that have gone over to IET, there are others that have reverted to hst and one hst turn has gone over to a 2-car turbo (includes 0807 Oxford - Paddington). On top of that the situation is(was?) further complicated by Hitachi/Agility being unhappy with the quality of the fuel at Laira so that the IET turn that stables there overnight is being covered by an hst which has knock on consequences. By the time all of this weeks changes have been digested it will be next week when everything will change because of the Bristol Parkway block.

SWTrainspottin · 5 Sep 2018

802101 worked 1C04 and 1A91 today. First time a 9 car has worked down to Devon and Cornwall in service.

spark001uk · 5 Sep 2018

SWTrainspottin said:
802101 worked 1C04 and 1A91 today. First time a 9 car has worked down to Devon and Cornwall in service.

I think you mean 1A93?

D1009 · 5 Sep 2018

SWTrainspottin said:
802101 worked 1C04 and 1A91 today. First time a 9 car has worked down to Devon and Cornwall in service.

Also the first passenger working of 802101 presumably?

Siemens Staines · 5 Sep 2018

According to postings elsewhere 802101 was in passenger use on Monday on Cotswold line services starting with 0528 Hereford - Paddington and then 1221 Paddington - Worcester etc. I don't know if it had worked prior to that though. It was planned to work to the West Country yesterday but it didn't make it and hence the use of 800012 to Penzance.

SWTrainspottin · 6 Sep 2018

spark001uk said:
I think you mean 1A93?

Yeah that's what I meant

Edmorton · 6 Sep 2018

What services are IETs to Penzance on Saturday, please anyone.

FGW_DID · 6 Sep 2018

Edmorton said:
What services are IETs to Penzance on Saturday, please anyone.

1C04 0730 Paddington- Penzance and,
1C79 1103 Paddington- Penzance
Both are booked for Class 802 (5+5)

31160 · 10 Sep 2018

Hello all could someone please help me the following services for the middle of this week, just need to know if I'm expecting a HST or a 800
0647 penz padd
1136 padd chelt
2120 chelt bristol tm

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