During the Bristol Parkway Blockade

ashworth · 7 Sep 2018

There are no trains in the area around Bristol Parkway for 3 weeks from Saturday 15th September. I’ve heard that XC services between Birmingham New Street and Bristol Temple Meads are diverted and will be calling at Gloucester and Newport. I’ve also read that XC will only be running hourly between Birmingham and Bristol for those 3 weeks with mainly only the NE to SW trains running. A small number of these trains will terminate at Exeter St David’s instead of running through to Plymouth and also Newcastle instead of to Edinburgh or Glasgow.

Does anyone know whether any of these trains will be double Voyager sets, at least between Birmingham and Bristol, if the service is to be hourly with no trains from Manchester to the SW running. I suppose Manchester passengers could travel via Shrewsbury and change at Newport.

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ValleyLines142 · 7 Sep 2018

ashworth said:
There are no trains in the area around Bristol Parkway for 3 weeks from Saturday 15th September. I’ve heard that XC services between Birmingham New Street and Bristol Temple Meads are diverted and will be calling at Gloucester and Newport. I’ve also read that XC will only be running hourly between Birmingham and Bristol for those 3 weeks with mainly only the NE to SW trains running. A small number of these trains will terminate at Exeter St David’s instead of running through to Plymouth and also Newcastle instead of to Edinburgh or Glasgow.

Does anyone know whether any of these trains will be double Voyager sets, at least between Birmingham and Bristol, if the service is to be hourly with no trains from Manchester to the SW running. I suppose Manchester passengers could travel via Shrewsbury and change at Newport.

Manchester to South West passengers can use ATW via Shrewsbury and catch the XC services down south at Newport.

31160 · 7 Sep 2018

Does anyone know which route the 2120 chelt-bristol is using if it runs at all that is

PHILIPE · 7 Sep 2018

31160 said:
Does anyone know which route the 2120 chelt-bristol is using if it runs at all that is

Er.... There seems to be a Planning error

1e10 · 7 Sep 2018

My bad. Delete.

31160 · 7 Sep 2018

Just checked RTT and the service doesn't show at all so it must be going empty, but it's the last section of a 800 diagram going back to shed so it has to get back somehow

PHILIPE · 7 Sep 2018

31160 said:
Just checked RTT and the service doesn't show at all so it must be going empty, but it's the last section of a 800 diagram going back to shed so it has to get back somehow

It does show in RTT which is why I commented as I did in #Post4

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C40496/2018/09/18/advanced

It is also shown in Journey Planner.

The ECS (5T48) is shown as running to SPM via Swindon (Reverse) and Chippenham

I'll Tweet GWR on Monday, no point before because Train Planning won't be in

CMRail · 8 Sep 2018

GWR running hourly via Bath then onto Dr Days to Filton through to South Wales.

XC as said calling at Newport and Gloucester additionally, a good opportunity for Gloucester as they always miss out on services.

CMRail · 8 Sep 2018

PHILIPE said:
It does show in RTT which is why I commented as I did in #Post4

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C40496/2018/09/18/advanced

It is also shown in Journey Planner.

The ECS (5T48) is shown as running to SPM via Swindon (Reverse) and Chippenham

I'll Tweet GWR on Monday, no point before because Train Planning won't be in

1837 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa will terminate on Platform Two, travel up to the sidings, reverse and run empty to St Philips Marsh. This is the unit that operates 2120.

Twoonthebuzzer · 8 Sep 2018

My local station, Lawrence Hill, will be busier than normal then.

Still see the usual XC services, CDF - TAU/Pompey units, Severn Beach line services, along with the BPW - WSM services (starting at Filton). Not much loss in the usual traffic volumes currently.

Add into that the diverted South Wales - Paddington services and a small amount of diverted GWML freight, along with the little freight it currently sees, primarily from Portbury and Westbury, then the Filton Bank lines will surely be at max capacity during the blockade.

Shame the ongoing four tracking work isn't ready now.

221129 · 8 Sep 2018

Twoonthebuzzer said:
My local station, Lawrence Hill, will be busier than normal then.

Still see the usual XC services, CDF - TAU/Pompey units, Severn Beach line services, along with the BPW - WSM services (starting at Filton). Not much loss in the usual traffic volumes currently.

Add into that the diverted South Wales - Paddington services and a small amount of diverted GWML freight, along with the little freight it currently sees, primarily from Portbury and Westbury, then the Filton Bank lines will surely be at max capacity during the blockade.

Shame the ongoing four tracking work isn't ready now.

But minus the services that are being removed from the timetable during the works.

Twoonthebuzzer · 8 Sep 2018

221129 said:
But minus the services that are being removed from the timetable during the works.

There is very little being removed from the usual timetable.

The GWR units from BPW or Gloucester are starting at Filton Abbey Wood instead. XC are still running, diverting around BPW via Chepstow. Aside from a few extra commuter services, and some NW XC services, that's all I can think will go.

Although, I'm not sure how the IEP's are going to access Stoke Gifford depot, if indeed they can? If they can't, what does this mean for the IEP operated services?

221129 · 8 Sep 2018

Twoonthebuzzer said:
There is very little being removed from the usual timetable.

The GWR units from BPW or Gloucester are starting at Filton Abbey Wood instead. XC are still running, diverting around BPW via Chepstow. Aside from a few extra commuter services, and some NW XC services, that's all I can think will go.

Although, I'm not sure how the IEP's are going to access Stoke Gifford depot, if indeed they can? If they can't, what does this mean for the IEP operated services?

The XC frequency is halved for a start.... No access to Stoke Gifford so a significant number of ECS moves will not run....

221129 · 8 Sep 2018

And I can't see the Parkway Weston trains running either...

dmncf · 8 Sep 2018

ashworth said:
There are no trains in the area around Bristol Parkway for 3 weeks from Saturday 15th September. I’ve heard that XC services between Birmingham New Street and Bristol Temple Meads are diverted and will be calling at Gloucester and Newport. I’ve also read that XC will only be running hourly between Birmingham and Bristol for those 3 weeks with mainly only the NE to SW trains running. A small number of these trains will terminate at Exeter St David’s instead of running through to Plymouth and also Newcastle instead of to Edinburgh or Glasgow.

Is that blockade and this one part of a series for similar works - Filton Bank four tracking?

(From http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service_disruptions/currentAndFuture.aspx?TravelDate=31/10/2018&TOC=xc)
"Buses replace trains between Bristol Temple Meads and Bristol Parkway / Severn Beach from Saturday 27 October until Sunday 25 November"

221129 · 8 Sep 2018

dmncf said:
Is that blockade and this one part of a series for similar works - Filton Bank four tracking?

(From http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service_disruptions/currentAndFuture.aspx?TravelDate=31/10/2018&TOC=xc)
"Buses replace trains between Bristol Temple Meads and Bristol Parkway / Severn Beach from Saturday 27 October until Sunday 25 November"

No. This is Bristol Parkway electrification.

PHILIPE · 10 Sep 2018

PHILIPE said:
It does show in RTT which is why I commented as I did in #Post4

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C40496/2018/09/18/advanced

It is also shown in Journey Planner.

The ECS (5T48) is shown as running to SPM via Swindon (Reverse) and Chippenham

I'll Tweet GWR on Monday, no point before because Train Planning won't be in

1T48, in the meantime, has now been cancelled off

Class 170101 · 11 Sep 2018

221129 said:
The XC frequency is halved for a start.... No access to Stoke Gifford so a significant number of ECS moves will not run....

There must be some access to / from Stoke Gifford as some are still running including some additional STP moves.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V40232/2018/09/18/advanced

Twoonthebuzzer · 15 Sep 2018

Class 170101 said:
There must be some access to / from Stoke Gifford as some are still running including some additional STP moves.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V40232/2018/09/18/advanced

Yes, was just about to post something similar. This one is at BPW as I type;

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V20152/2018/09/15/advanced

So there appears to be some access to/from Stoke Gifford depot during the blockade.

FGW_DID · 16 Sep 2018

Class 170101 said:
There must be some access to / from Stoke Gifford as some are still running including some additional STP moves.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V40232/2018/09/18/advanced

Twoonthebuzzer said:
Yes, was just about to post something similar. This one is at BPW as I type;

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V20152/2018/09/15/advanced

So there appears to be some access to/from Stoke Gifford depot during the blockade.

As mentioned on another thread there are special possession arrangements in place:

https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...grams-allocations.153431/page-46#post-3639314

SC43090 · 16 Sep 2018

The XC HST turns during the latest blockade which started yesterday on Saturday 15th September runs to Saturday 6th October Inclusive... Diverted from Cheltenham Spa to Bristol TM via Gloucester Patchway & Newport calling at Patchway & Newport.... Also the Derby Blockade is also still on until Sunday 7th October 2018... Nothing like having a mini railtour......

The following are showing to be HST operated

Saturday 15th September to Saturday 6th October 2018

1V44 0548 Leeds Exeter ST Davids

1S52 1223 Exeter ST Davids Leeds

1V50 0835 York Plymouth

1E73 1625 Plymouth Leeds

Sunday 16th to Sunday 30th Inclusive

1V48 0810 Leeds Plymouth

1E67 1525 Plymouth Leeds

1V50 0900 Leeds Plymouth

1E73 1625 Plymouth Leeds

Monday 17th September to Friday 5th October 2018 Inclusive

1V44 0544 Leeds Exeter ST Davids

1S52 1224 Exeter ST Davids Edinburgh

1V46 0616 Leeds Exeter ST Davids

1E56 1324 Exeter ST Davids Newcastle On Friday 21st September its showing as been 1S56 1324 Exeter ST Davids Edinburgh

1V52 0700 Edinburgh Exeter ST Davids

1E68 1624 Exeter ST Davids York

On the following Friday's 21st & 28th September & 5th October 2018

1V54 0935 Newcastle Exeter ST Davids

1E73 1724 Exeter ST Davids Leeds

SC43090

221129 · 16 Sep 2018

SC43090 said:
The XC HST turns during the latest blockade which started yesterday on Saturday 15th September runs to Saturday 6th October Inclusive... Diverted from Cheltenham Spa to Bristol TM via Gloucester Patchway & Newport calling at Patchway & Newport.... Also the Derby Blockade is also still on until Sunday 7th October 2018... Nothing like having a mini railtour......

The following are showing to be HST operated

Saturday 15th September to Saturday 6th October 2018

1V48 0548 Leeds Exeter ST Davids

1S52 1223 Exeter ST Davids Leeds

1V50 0835 York Plymouth

1E73 1625 Plymouth Leeds

Sunday 16th to Sunday 30th Inclusive

1V48 0810 Leeds Plymouth

1E67 1525 Plymouth Leeds

1V50 0900 Leeds Plymouth

1E73 1625 Plymouth Leeds

Monday 17th September to Friday 5th October 2018 Inclusive

1V44 0544 Leeds Exeter ST Davids

1S52 1224 Exeter ST Davids Edinburgh

1V46 0616 Leeds Exeter ST Davids

1E56 1324 Exeter ST Davids Newcastle On Friday 21st September its showing as been 1S56 1324 Exeter ST Davids Edinburgh

1V52 0700 Edinburgh Exeter ST Davids

1E68 1624 Exeter ST Davids York

On the following Friday's 21st & 28th September & 5th October 2018

1V54 0935 Newcastle Exeter ST Davids

1E73 1724 Exeter ST Davids Leeds

SC43090

not sure on your source but it doesn't look correct to me...

CMRail · 16 Sep 2018

also the trains call at Gloucester.

Dai Corner · 16 Sep 2018

CMRail said:
also the trains call at Gloucester.

and, pedantically, they call at Newport (and reverse) before Patchway.

tgrb · 16 Sep 2018

So it’s been very quite Train wise in the Hullavington/Rodbourne area (cabbage lane) yesterday and today, looking on RTT nothing much until 7th October (except the odd freight train which I expect is yet to be cancelled or re-pathed and what looks like measurement trains).

that’s a (very) approximate 150 trains a day, of which about 80% are GWR services, the reminder being freight, and quite a few of those being electrification trains from Swindon. Not an insignificant amount of trains to re-path! Anyway - presume this is connected as they come from/goto/vis parkway mostly?

1e10 · 16 Sep 2018

221129 said:
not sure on your source but it doesn't look correct to me...

What is correct then?

PHILIPE · 16 Sep 2018

tgrb said:
So it’s been very quite Train wise in the Hullavington/Rodbourne area (cabbage lane) yesterday and today, looking on RTT nothing much until 7th October (except the odd freight train which I expect is yet to be cancelled or re-pathed and what looks like measurement trains).

that’s a (very) approximate 150 trains a day, of which about 80% are GWR services, the reminder being freight, and quite a few of those being electrification trains from Swindon. Not an insignificant amount of trains to re-path! Anyway - presume this is connected as they come from/goto/vis parkway mostly?

There are Freight paths shown on RTT but they may not necessarily run. In other words, the path is protected

NorthernSpirit · 16 Sep 2018

Going by a leaflet that I picked up in Wakefield, it states that Bristol Parkway is closed on Saturday 1st December - is this work part of the blockade or is it something to do with the Filton works? The leaflet seems vauge.

221129 · 16 Sep 2018

NorthernSpirit said:
Going by a leaflet that I picked up in Wakefield, it states that Bristol Parkway is closed on Saturday 1st December - is this work part of the blockade or is it something to do with the Filton works? The leaflet seems vauge.

Filton.

SC43090 · 17 Sep 2018

221129 said:
not sure on your source but it doesn't look correct to me...

Well this morning its all going to plan as quoted by SC43090

1V44 0544 Leeds Exeter St Davids was an HST

1V46 0616 Leeds Exeter St Davids was an HST

1V52 0700 Edinburgh Exeter St Davids was an HST

SC43090

During the Bristol Parkway Blockade

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