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SP Man

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There's not. All the sets are in the old Eurostar shed opposite Longsight.
4 on the Eurostar depot and set 5 on Lonsight (Eurostar or MID Manchester international depot,) can only hold 4. Out Sunday between Stafford and Warrington. Them Carlisle Thursday morning and Bletchley Friday morning.68028 planned to go light engine to MID Friday as well.
 

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Well there seemed to be a 68 in TPE livery in one of the roads beside a wall last night (Friday) and it looked like it was coupled to MK5's?

There a 68's down there as that is where the crew training is taking place. No Mk5's there though. Just the much maligned Mk3's.
 

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What routes have these sets been destined for now? Wasn't it originally Liverpool - Newcastle?
 

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Liverpool to Scarborough from December 9th (6 trains each way per day to begin - 2 sets out).

Then Man air to Middlesbrough from January ish.
 

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Liverpool to Scarborough from December 9th (6 trains each way per day to begin - 2 sets out).

Then Man air to Middlesbrough from January ish.

Thanks for the info. Will that be the only routes? I had hoped Glasgow/Edinburgh - Liverpool might see them
 

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I think all three sets look good to be honest. TPE have sourced some attractive looking trains with a decent livery that suits them. The big buffers on the end of the Mk5 DTS take some getting used to, but other than that, they're all looking very promising. Look forward to seeing the 802/2 in TPE livery. I think that too will look the part.
 

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I think all three sets look good to be honest. TPE have sourced some attractive looking trains with a decent livery that suits them. The big buffers on the end of the Mk5 DTS take some getting used to, but other than that, they're all looking very promising. Look forward to seeing the 802/2 in TPE livery. I think that too will look the part.

I still think the need yellow ends along the lines of the Pendolinos, the black is too much. I hope they will be fitting out the 802s to the same spec as the other NOVAs. The DafT spec is garbage on what could probably be a very good 125/225 replacement.
 

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I still think the need yellow ends along the lines of the Pendolinos, the black is too much. I hope they will be fitting out the 802s to the same spec as the other NOVAs. The DafT spec is garbage on what could probably be a very good 125/225 replacement.

The DFT haven't ordered the 802s so those units will receive whatever interiors TPE have asked for.
 

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The DFT haven't ordered the 802s so those units will receive whatever interiors TPE have asked for.

Let's hope they do go for the fleet wide standard and not settle for the cheap option as a run-on from the other IEPs.
 

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Wow, the 397s look good.

Bring on in-fill electrification and get 6-7 car versions of these running on Reading-Manchester and Reading-Scotland XC services ASAP.

After that get Larbert to Perth upgraded to a 125mph route and the knitting up to Aberdeen.
 

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Lets not lose sight that this is a thread about Mk5s for TPE rather than wider issues ;)
 

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68020 and its Mk5A set was out last night doing high speed brake tests - 100mph to zero in emergency, full service, etc.

Managed to come to a full stop from 100mph in 800 metres on a full service brake application. Even shorter in emergency.
 
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68020 and its Mk5A set was out last night doing high speed brake tests - 100mph to zero in emergency, full service, etc.

Managed to come to a full stop from 100mph in 800 metres on a full service brake application. Even shorter in emergency.


Thats 4 metres shy of half a mile, still a long distance when you think about it.
 

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Is it really? At 100mph it’s moving at 44.7 metres per second.

Sounds pretty good from 100mph, and I’m sure there’s far more intelligent people who have formulas about deceleration rates who can verify what this rate is, and also compare it to other stock.
 

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Is it really? At 100mph it’s moving at 44.7 metres per second.

Sounds pretty good from 100mph, and I’m sure there’s far more intelligent people who have formulas about deceleration rates who can verify what this rate is, and also compare it to other stock.

16m/s^2 - so around 1.6 times gravity. Must be aa pretty exciting ride.

(Edit: on the other hand a car stopping from 70
mph per the Highway Code distance does about 65m/s^2)
 
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corsaVXR

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16m/s^2 - so around 1.6 times gravity. Must be aa pretty exciting ride.

(Edit: on the other hand a car stopping from 70
mph per the Highway Code distance does about 65m/s^2)

As a handy rule of thumb for vehicles stopping, unless you have really high friction (like high abrasion tarmac and high friction tyres), and/or high aerodynamic downforce (/or other downwards force), the maximum deceleration you will get from the brakes will be 1 g.

100mph to 0mph in 800m will be on average ~0.13g.
70mph to 0mph in 75m (highway code stopping distance is ~0.67g
70mph to 0 mph at an average of 65m/s^2 (~6.6g) will be ~7.5m. Definitely eyeballs out territory.
 
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