314202 was my last one for haulage. I finally caught up with it in May 2007, a few years after all the others. I did the sleeper to Glasgow and it was one of the first trains I saw. A return ticket to Neilston was rapidly purchased!
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Class 314 Withdrawals
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314202 was my last one for haulage. I finally caught up with it in May 2007, a few years after all the others. I did the sleeper to Glasgow and it was one of the first trains I saw. A return ticket to Neilston was rapidly purchased!
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Probably more likely that having 2x385 on a North Berwick and an extra two (so 4 in total) on the E&G has freed up a load of 380 units to return to Inverclyde. The Ayr chaos has probably helped as well though.
ScotRail had an interesting response to a question about the future rolling stock on the Cathcart Circle yesterday.
‘You'll see Class 380s on Neilston & Cathcart Circle services, and Class 318/320s on the Newton route.’
Does that mean Class 385s are no longer to be used on any Circle/Neilston/Newton services?
‘You'll see Class 380s on Neilston & Cathcart Circle services, and Class 318/320s on the Newton route.’
Does that mean Class 385s are no longer to be used on any Circle/Neilston/Newton services?
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I'm not sure I would read too much into that comment by ScotRail's twitter. Unless there was going to be significant diagram changes then there will need to be some crossover between the diagrams. Neilston workings tend to stick to that route, whereas Newton via Maxwell Park & Circles are on the same diagrams. I reckon there will be some sharing of duties between the units on all services. There are 380 3 and 4 car stop boards now appearing at the Cathcart Circle stations, as opposed to the previous standard stop boards at the platform ends.
380s are allowed on the Neilston line, but if there's a failure at any point on the down line beyond Whitecraigs would need a wrong direction move to get it back. Down line is bi-directional as far as Whitecraigs - Muirend Crossover - why they left it there I don't know....
Not sure a 4 car 380 will manage so well on some of the busier services where there were 6 car 314s, but at least they have wider door vestibule areas than the 320s and 318s.
380s are allowed on the Neilston line, but if there's a failure at any point on the down line beyond Whitecraigs would need a wrong direction move to get it back. Down line is bi-directional as far as Whitecraigs - Muirend Crossover - why they left it there I don't know....
Not sure a 4 car 380 will manage so well on some of the busier services where there were 6 car 314s, but at least they have wider door vestibule areas than the 320s and 318s.
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314207 and 213 were moved to Yoker this evening: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/M19551/2018/09/22/advanced
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Probably the first in ages, if not ever, they have been to Yoker Depot
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314 units original work was out of Yoker Depot on the Argyle line, so they've definitely been there before
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Would be good to know when others go, as it would be nice to see what would be their last run under their own power.
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Whilst I agree that 314s have certainly been to Yoker CS before, it only opened in 1987 when Hyndland Depot closed. The Argyle line was reopened in 1979.
There is another move to Yoker from Corkerhill tonight
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/M16832/2018/09/22/advanced
Not sure if this will be 314212 or a 318/320
This photo (not mine) of Yoker depot taken circa 1987 definitely shows a 314 on the left:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/143518034@N05/36264135082
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Yes, 314s were still on the north side when Yoker opened. However they “originally worked” out of the long since closed Hyndland and Bridgeton depots.
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Seems odd that they’ve actually started withdrawing the 314s. Doesn’t feel like so long ago 314212 was coming out of refurbishment with the new livery and interior. It really is nearing towards the end of an era for Scotrail.
Although I must say they’ve been great servants but it’s definately time to move on. Trains are far more advanced now (some may argue not always better), however this is a good step in the right direction for a more modern/efficient fleet.
Seems odd having 385s on Cathcart Circle lines somehow... I always feel 318s/320s would be a more worthy replacement.
Although I must say they’ve been great servants but it’s definately time to move on. Trains are far more advanced now (some may argue not always better), however this is a good step in the right direction for a more modern/efficient fleet.
Seems odd having 385s on Cathcart Circle lines somehow... I always feel 318s/320s would be a more worthy replacement.
As far as I remember, they worked on the north side, mainly the Argyle line, up till the big unit reshuffle around 2000-2002 when the 334s arrived and the 303s were being withdrawn. This was the same shuffle that saw 318s appear on the north side lines for the first time
Did the 314s only work Argyle services or did they do Springburn or Airdrie ?
I thought it was 320s that were not on Neilstons but im sure i seen one that way few weeks back .
Scotrail tweeted that the 1703 to Neilston will be a 380 Mon to Fri
I thought it was 320s that were not on Neilstons but im sure i seen one that way few weeks back .
Scotrail tweeted that the 1703 to Neilston will be a 380 Mon to Fri
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320s have been on the Neilston line recently. Six car 314s most of the day yesterday.
Six cars on a Sunday , strange .
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Two football matches and something on at the SECC
One of the three off peak diagrams to Neilston is booked for a 318 Monday to Friday but often turns out a 320 instead.
Regarding the 314s, the off peak diagram to Wemyss Bay is now a 380 and two of the fast Gourock diagrams that were 314s have switched to 380s as well. There is still one fast and one stopping diagram for a 314 to Gourock off peak.
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It's been like that for a while now, seems to be connected with the Polmadie work. Newton services running through to Motherwell & Larkhall are 6 cars, and the diagrams on Sunday usually alternate between Newton & Neilston work.
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Is this from the December timetable change? I was wondering where they'll get the extra 380s from to cover the Cathcart routes. Can only guess that the North Berwick handover to 385s would produce them.
EDIT: It was a 314 on that service today.
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These photos prove they ran to Drumgelloch and Helensburgh.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/40511259@N03/16540420410/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/40172673@N03/35197597770/
Yes, 314s ran regularly to Drumgelloch/Airdrie, Springburn, Coatbridge Central, Lanark, Milngavie, Helensburgh and Balloch before the 334s arrived and 303s went.
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Agreed - the PEP-derived units have been reliable and dependable, and have got on with things without fuss for 40 years, but there's a lot of features in them that are pretty horrible. The window alignment has to be just about the worst you'll find anywhere - about half the seats don't have a decent view - and the seats themselves are ghastly. The detachable cushions are just about the right size to be tossed out the hopper windows as well! Add to that, the heating only has two settings - "off" and "nuclear".
I actually do quite like them, though, and will miss them when they're gone.
The 17:18 peak to Weymss Bay and the return 18:24 is still a 314 set. It runs most of the night.
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Need to get on that, not had a Weymss bay 314!
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