EM2
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I'm sure the coins used to say 'new pence' on the reverse.
Anyway, the singular can also be the plural (sheep).
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Tesco & M&S being pronounced "Tescos" and "Marks & Spencers"
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Anyway, the singular can also be the plural (sheep).
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Speaking of plurals, I wonder, how many people who get frustrated by incorrect pluralisation have ever asked for ‘a [insert flavour here] panini please’? 
Small print: whilst I'm always learning, my grammar etc. is still not perfect, so in making posts such as this I don't claim to be in some kind of linguistic throne looking down on everyone! I do find spelling/grammar/punctuation and the evolution thereof genuinely interesting.
Small print: whilst I'm always learning, my grammar etc. is still not perfect, so in making posts such as this I don't claim to be in some kind of linguistic throne looking down on everyone! I do find spelling/grammar/punctuation and the evolution thereof genuinely interesting.
Bletchleyite
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They did. But that was more that they were coins of new pence, specifically one penny, than that one pence was a correct form.
Sorry Clip, missed your post earlier. The answer is yes, with a caveat: it takes me longer to process and understand it than if it'd been written properly. Though having said that, if a piece of writing has too many errors like that (e.g. I have a relative who writes long text messages with strange things like spelling ‘would’ as ‘wood’) then I'll just give up altogether and not bother to read it, because it gets too confusing.
I remember a NR sign that had the words muddled up in the middle of it and once you got to grips with it it was easy to understand and lots of people i remember commenting to me about it because it made them stop and read it and understand the message it was putting across so it shows that its not how its written but what is written that matters.
krus_aragon
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Yeup. All the higher denominations had "new pence", but the penny and half penny were "new penny". Once decimalisation was a far-off memory, the term "new" was superfluous, and it reverted to "one penny", "five pence", etc.
In my High Street retail days I used to get the occasional comment for giving customers tuppence or thruppence change, one customer said "you're not old enough to say tuppence!"
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What about those who pronounce 'Hospital' as 'Hospickle'?
That, and "Tesco's"/"Asda's" winds me up more than it should...
bramling
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One can always argue that language evolves, and this is just an example of that.
We have the same at work - "Signal Equipment Room" is shortened to "SER", yet it's very common to hear people refer to "SER room".
Regardless of the rights or wrongs of the purity of it, language evolves.
One which does grate with me slightly is when people refer to "sidings" in the plural, when the location concerned has just one road! Again, fighting losing battles springs to mind.
What about those who pronounce 'Hospital' as 'Hospickle'?
Isn't that pronunciational quirk, a feature particularly of Manchester local speech? I was struck long ago, by a Manchester lad's talking about the German warships "scuckling" themselves in 1919.
Killingworth
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Not the country Whales.
Or a railway whale - which is not unlike a sealion; https://www.flickr.com/photos/15038/8430375884/
Perhaps an individual kink of mine; but I find the whole thing about words beginning with "w[h]", a bit problematic. My personal "take", based on my pronouncing abilities, is that in those circumstances, it's not easy to pronounce in a way which very readily / perceptibly distinguishes between "straight" w, and wh; unless one exaggerates the "wh" in a rather grotesque way; which to me, comes across as irritatingly "prissy and precious". A late uncle of mine -- mostly a delightful fellow -- was in my view, an annoying pronunciation-snob; one of the ways in which he manifested this, was to make a big performance of saying "HHwite", "HHweel", and so on. Dearly though I loved the old guy; when he did this, I wanted to punch him.
AlterEgo
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Rowan Atkinson does the phantom “h” pre-consonant brilliantly in various character guises. It’s a great comedic indicator of character; usually reserved for pretentious authority figures like vicars.
Strat-tastic
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I knew a Scottish couple who'd pronounce the h of wh- words. I thought it sounded very nice.
Then there are those parts of the country where (faur!) "wh" is pronounced as "f"
Bletchleyite
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I think it sounds good in a Scottish accent, but horribly pretentious in an English one.
Very interesting!! I know somebody who says "lickle" instead of "little". It has always irritated me that she says it like a 3 year old.... but she grew up in Manchester so presumably that's why she says it.
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I once attempted to order a cheese and ham panino...Speaking of plurals, I wonder, how many people who get frustrated by incorrect pluralisation have ever asked for ‘a [insert flavour here] panini please’?
Small print: whilst I'm always learning, my grammar etc. is still not perfect, so in making posts such as this I don't claim to be in some kind of linguistic throne looking down on everyone! I do find spelling/grammar/punctuation and the evolution thereof genuinely interesting.
oh, the looks I got!
Back to the OP, I occasionally say "I'm just nipping to Ten Scones..." when I'm in fact going to Tesco(ses).
I once asked for a primo latte in Costa. Despite that being how it's shown on their price display, the girl behind the counter didn't know primo meant small, until a colleague told her!
nlogax
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Coffee time. Anyone fancy an 'expresso'?
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I'm in a low signal area, so just imagine that I've posted a .gif of the cartoon character, Stressed Eric... because that's what every vein in my body feels like it's doing!
Then there are those parts of the country where (faur!) "wh" is pronounced as "f"
Indeed ! I gather, the north-east of Scotland; where they do things to the language to the point that it approaches becoming an altogether different one. In a long-ago stay at a B & B in another part of Scotland, where the wife of the couple running it was from the north-east: the conversation turned to accents and dialects... we learned that where the lady came from: any male person of whatever age or condition, is addressed as "loon" -- doesn't imply mental impairment, it's just an approx. equivalent of "lad"; correspondingly, any female person, is "quine". The equivalent greeting to "hello, how are you doing?" is "Fit like, loon / quine?". Not meaning -- my initial figuring-out -- "are you sort-of feeling fit?"; but, "what [is life] like [for you at present], Sir / Madam?"
At the risk of coming across as a condescending received-English-speaking Englishperson: I really like the above -- find it marvellously weird.
trainmania100
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I always called M&S marks and expensers
trash80
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Yes that happened to me too, seems an odd thing for them not to be trained in
Should of, could of etc. simply do not make sense although I understand what people mean easily enough. Hospickle, bockle, etc. just make people sound childish in my humble opinion. Phrasial verbs are an interesting part of the English language which some foreigners struggle with. I didn't know what they were until a Spanish friend told me.
Down the local Chinese they'd presumably be Orient Expresso
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