Class 378 refresh

xc170 · 1 Sep 2018

This livery is terrible.

Too much black, the bit between the top of the windows and bottom of the roof should be white, this would look really nice like that.

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adc82140 · 1 Sep 2018

It's nice to see a livery that's not predominantly white- no matter how good your cleaning regime, a white train will always look grubby.

physics34 · 1 Sep 2018

adc82140 said:
It's nice to see a livery that's not predominantly white- no matter how good your cleaning regime, a white train will always look grubby.

Counter balancing that... 378s are washed regularly so seldomly look grubby TBF

TRAX · 1 Sep 2018

Well the Overground isn’t the dirtiest of operations (low speeds, urban traffic...)

dk1 · 1 Sep 2018

adc82140 said:
It's nice to see a livery that's not predominantly white- no matter how good your cleaning regime, a white train will always look grubby.

On the subject of white trains, just take a ride past Cambridge carriage sidings & compare the GN 387s with the GA 379s it's so noticeable how little care is taken by GTR compared to the gleaming Abellio units.

dk1 · 1 Sep 2018

dk1 said:
On the subject of white trains, just take a ride past Cambridge carriage sidings & compare the GN 387s with the GA 379s it's so noticeable how little care is taken by GTR compared to the gleaming Abellio units.

Loving the small yellow warning panel on the refurbed 378 fronts too :wub:

LOL The Irony · 1 Sep 2018

61653 HTAFC said:
Quite a "Marmite" livery it seems...

I quite like it, though despite being generally in the pro-yellow camp I don't think it works on this. Hopefully all the paperwork will get sorted correctly!

I'm the same.

samuelmorris · 1 Sep 2018

dk1 said:
the gleaming Abellio units.

Man how times have changed...

Agent_Squash · 1 Sep 2018

dk1 said:
On the subject of white trains, just take a ride past Cambridge carriage sidings & compare the GN 387s with the GA 379s it's so noticeable how little care is taken by GTR compared to the gleaming Abellio units.

The majority of the 377s south of the river are in good condition externally, however.

rebmcr · 3 Sep 2018

goblinuser said:
gimmicks such as wonky lines.

I'm not sure which part you're referring to, could you perhaps label one of the photos?

TwistedMentat · 3 Sep 2018

I like it. Nice balance of simplicity without being stark and colour without being painful.

XCTurbostar · 19 Sep 2018

Do we know how many repainted/refreshed 378s are in service and is there a timeline for completion of the full fleet?

Skoodle · 19 Sep 2018

The first unit 135 is still yet to enter service.

ijmad · 19 Sep 2018

Skoodle said:
The first unit 135 is still yet to enter service.

Is this because drivers assigned to it are immediately turning to stone upon seeing the horror?

Class 466 · 21 Sep 2018

Skoodle said:
The first unit 135 is still yet to enter service.

Entered service on Thursday and proceeded to fail with door problems!

ijmad · 21 Sep 2018

Class 466 said:
Entered service on Thursday and proceeded to fail with door problems!

Maybe all that extra paint is too heavy for the door motors.

Ethano92 · 21 Sep 2018

Just passed a refurbished train at Clapham junction. I will admit it looks far better in person and im probably one of the only people on this forum to not actually mind the yellow front.

Skoodle · 21 Sep 2018

According to twitter 135 is in service now and according to London Overground Twitter account, it is a brand new train. SMH!

samuelmorris · 21 Sep 2018

Oh dear, has the interior changed at all? That won't wash if it's still the same as before!

Bayum · 21 Sep 2018

I have to say, I really like the livery. Reminds me of some far eastern metro train for some reason.

ijmad · 21 Sep 2018

samuelmorris said:
Oh dear, has the interior changed at all? That won't wash if it's still the same as before!

New mockette to match the 710s i believe? It's got some green in it.

ijmad · 24 Sep 2018

In service this morning, managed to catch it purely by chance.

I think I've changed my mind!

The sides are quite nice, and the black up to the roof works way better than it looks in the photos I've seen.

Still not wholly convinced about the front end. Think I can get used to it though. It would look far better if they sorted the lights so the yellow section could go orange.

Fincra5 · 24 Sep 2018

Just passed it near Forest Hill, have to say.. I quite like it.

Goldfish62 · 24 Sep 2018

ijmad said:
New mockette to match the 710s i believe? It's got some green in it.

Apparently the green is sampled from trees along the routes. Not that anyone would ever realise that.

whhistle · 4 Oct 2018

Another photo:

Source

Reminds me a little of the Class 442 or even a 333 - almost a rounded look.

I think the thing I don't like is where the top (left in this photo) of the headlight isnt at the right angle so you get that small bit of yellow. Would have been better to use a small amount of black to extend the headlight area in that slither.

That and the fact the blacks don't actually line up!

Certainly different to current liveries.

bastien · 4 Oct 2018

Bayum said:
I have to say, I really like the livery. Reminds me of some far eastern metro train for some reason.

Yes, I'm getting a Bangkok SkyTrain vibe too.

samuelmorris · 4 Oct 2018

Yeah the black areas not lining up is irritating, but presumably a result of the U-turn on not needing a yellow panel. If the black area below the windscreen lined up with the sides, I don't imagine what's left would be considered sufficient.

goblinuser · 4 Oct 2018

whhistle said:
Another photo:

I think the thing I don't like is where the top (left in this photo) of the headlight isnt at the right angle so you get that small bit of yellow. Would have been better to use a small amount of black to extend the headlight area in that slither.

I think you mean the line is applied at the wrong angle. The headlight is innocent, he was there first!

Wolfie · 5 Oct 2018

samuelmorris said:
Oh dear, has the interior changed at all? That won't wash if it's still the same as before!

ijmad said:
New mockette to match the 710s i believe? It's got some green in it.

Rode a refurbished unit today. Interior changes immediately visible were:
- seat moquette - like the original but with the grey replaced by green
- grab handles - refinished in a darker, nigh on red, orange colour
- revised route maps over door

It also felt lighter and brighter - unclear if lights just cleaned or there have been changes.

Genuinely felt like a new train (not as the 378s were that bad before).

Interestingly l couldn't see a unit number on either of the cab fronts but it was, in very large letters, on the roof!

NoOnesFool · 5 Oct 2018

jon0844 said:
Need to get blockchain mentioned somewhere too...

Blockchain...all I can think of is a lavatory..

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