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Would you live in a hard water area?

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cactustwirly

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It might not necessarily be a deal-breaker but it does seem that most hard water areas are also expensive places to live, so it means even less reason to live in those areas.

So would you rather live in a £100,000 house in the North/South Wales Valleys, with perfectly soft water?
 

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RailUK is the last place I would have expected to see your expertise needed, but there you go!

Has anyone had any experience in using specific tea bags for their water condition? I notice Yorkshire Tea do a hard water blend, i'd assumed it was a load of old cobblers.
I've noticed little difference, filtering the water is the best option. I could not live without my filter kettle, so convenient!

AndrewE eloquently explains the variability in Birmingham as well. The people of mid-Wales sacrificed a lot to ensure that Liverpool,
...and it looks as though it is a water softener.
It says "its ion exchange resin reduces both carbonate hardness (limescale) and metals such as copper and lead. The activated carbon reduces substances that can impair taste, such as chlorine and chlorine compounds (where present)"
 

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Are you up-to-date? I ask because there has been a big change in water treatment. Once upon a time all water had to be alkaline to prevent plumbo-solvency and lime was added to any water from an acidic supply. Unfortunately dissolving even a little bit of dry lime is quite difficult and expensive: nowadays they add phosphoric acid to acidic supplies instead, so that even though the water is acid the inside of lead and iron pipes are passivated by the phosphorus reaction compounds created.
So my water is alternately alkaline if it is the groundwater being used, and more acidic than the Dee water if it's from Bala!
A couple of years out of date, though I have no disagreement in what you're saying!
 

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So would you rather live in a £100,000 house in the North/South Wales Valleys, with perfectly soft water?

If I had to live somewhere in the UK, it would probably be in Scotland. Preferably near the east so not too much rainfall. It seems that almost anywhere in Scotland has soft water.
 

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I have done. It wrecked kettles and every so often your hot drink would be full of chalk flakes which fell off the element!
 

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I’ve never heard of anyone using the availability of soft or hard water as a factor in deciding where to live. It certainly wouldn’t bother me.
 

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I prefer soft water, but if I had good reason to move to an area where the water happened to be hard, I think I'd take the hit :lol:
 

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My wife would probably consider it a deal breaker, as regular bathing in Derby's hard water tended to aggravate her skin conditions.
 

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My wife would probably consider it a deal breaker, as regular bathing in Derby's hard water tended to aggravate her skin conditions.
That would be a good reason to soften water, but for me living in Derby might well cause a skin condition! I would still keep an unsoftened supply to a tap for drinking though (and probably feeding the bogs if I could manage it, as there's no point softening flush water.)
 

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There very much is if it's *very* hard water - it avoids no end of cleaning the scum off the pan.

FWIW I too can think of lots of better reasons not to live in Derby than the water :D
You have to clean the bog every so often anyway, so just use an acidic (limescale remover) type?

What did steam trains make of hard water?
The railway companies installed softening plants at big supplies. Later (when locos travelled further afield) BR developed briquettes of softening chemicals that could be dumped into the tender tank to treat the water in a particular area.
 

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There very much is if it's *very* hard water - it avoids no end of cleaning the scum off the pan.

FWIW I too can think of lots of better reasons not to live in Derby than the water :D

As can my wife. She's often said "if only I could move the old family house and bring it here..."
 

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I’ve never heard of anyone using the availability of soft or hard water as a factor in deciding where to live. It certainly wouldn’t bother me.

one of the most bizarre threads i have seen! Practically what does it mean? that you have to descale the kettle and washer every so often?

I don't buy any plumbing issues as the heating system in my house prior to refit has been in at least 30 years and was still in perfect working order.
 

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I don't buy any plumbing issues as the heating system in my house prior to refit has been in at least 30 years and was still in perfect working order.
Central heating systems are typically a closed system, reusing the same water, so there'd be little ill-effect.
 

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Central heating systems are typically a closed system, reusing the same water, so there'd be little ill-effect.

but over the at least 30 years that system was in it must have been drained and refilled several times. In the year since my new one went in i have had to drain down twice for various reasons.
 

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but over the at least 30 years that system was in it must have been drained and refilled several times. In the year since my new one went in i have had to drain down twice for various reasons.
True, but that's still orders of magnitude lower than the flow of fresh water through your taps / washing machine / etc.
 

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Moving just for having hard water is a bit over the top. Question is if your job requires you (if you want to avoid hard water) would you do it.

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Source: Waterwise
 

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Question: Is it cheaper to buy Calgon or similar all the time or to replace the washing machine more often? Given the high price of the stuff...
 

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Calgon already exits 80 years.

An advertisement from the 90's in the Netherlands on Youtube:
 

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Central heating systems are typically a closed system, reusing the same water, so there'd be little ill-effect.

The hot water heat exchanger can end up cacked up, but it's not a difficult thing to replace in most systems. It also has a habit of eating immersion heaters by insulating the element with calcium and thus causing an overheat and so failure.
 

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As a long ago plumber, two types of hardness:- temporary hardness which is carbonates hydrogencarbonate and will stick to your kettle element etc. Permanent hardness is calcium sulfate which you will make it harder to wash with. Hard water, according to medical people is better for your health than soft water.
 
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