EU Parliament votes for significant improvements in passengers' rights

pemma · 6 Dec 2018

Randomer said:
I really don't see forcing ticket sales to be allowed on board going down very well in a lot of Europe. In some countries conductors don't sell tickets at all due to rulings from the countries health and safety bodies about lone working with large amounts of cash or purely revenue enforcement reasons. They only check and issue (very hefty) penalty fares if not shown or valid.

Card only transactions?

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nidave · 6 Dec 2018

Randomer said:
I really don't see forcing ticket sales to be allowed on board going down very well in a lot of Europe. In some countries conductors don't sell tickets at all due to rulings from the countries health and safety bodies about lone working with large amounts of cash or purely revenue enforcement reasons. They only check and issue (very hefty) penalty fares if not shown or valid.

This is why it has to still be agreed by the EU Parliament and debated by the members. Thats how EU law works. There is a proposal - its debated, amended if no agreement thrown out.

ijmad · 6 Dec 2018

Qwerty133 said:
But it could quite easily be solved by allowing individual countries to set polling days and terms of office for the EU parliament in line with general elections rather than a EU wide voting window as people who turn up to vote in one election generally also vote in other elections being held on the same day.

Please do explain how you'd manage to maintain a functional government with a working majority if you have a tenth or so of the parliament changing every six months.

In the US, it is the states that generally decide to coordinate their elections with national elections each November for this very reason. It makes practical sense. If anything we should align our fixed term parliaments with EU election dates, not the other way around!

JP · 6 Dec 2018

ijmad said:
Please do explain how you'd manage to maintain a functional government with a working majority if you have a tenth or so of the parliament changing every six months.

In the US, it is the states that generally decide to coordinate their elections with national elections each November for this very reason. It makes practical sense. If anything we should align our fixed term parliaments with EU election dates, not the other way around!

The EU parliament doesn’t have legislative initiative so maintining a majority or coalition is less important than, say, in Westminster. Its members also don’t form the executive so also reducing the importance of maintining a status quo for longer periods.

LeeLivery · 6 Dec 2018

Could be tweaked a bit, as I'm sure it will.

Qwerty133 said:
I can't see how it is possible to reconcile EU parliament voting with any other unless it is accepted that only an unrepresentative minority of people turn up for EU elections which makes it rather undemocratic. It also needs to be noted that the EU parliament only plays an advisory role to the unelected EU commission which actually makes the regulations.

The EU is undemocratic because people can't be bothered to vote?

Meole said:
The British people voted to dump EC Regulation 1371/2007 so that's the end of it. The view that Qwerty 133 expresses that the entire EC has no democratic accountability is the majority view hence taking back control, the belief is that once out of the EC and out of restrictive regulation our railways will dramatically improve.

Seriously? People voted to leave on the expectation that our railways will dramatically improve? And I thought someone telling me leaving the EU would immediately result in 7%+ growth in GDP was ridiculous.

Qwerty133 said:
But it could quite easily be solved by allowing individual countries to set polling days and terms of office for the EU parliament in line with general elections rather than a EU wide voting window as people who turn up to vote in one election generally also vote in other elections being held on the same day.

You're suggesting 28 different election dates for one body. That just would not work.

TUC · 6 Dec 2018

Without getting into the Brexit debate, why should it matter if conditions like this vary between countries? Yes, have agreed rules for international services but why should variation matter for any of the rest?

Jonfun · 6 Dec 2018

None of this will ever be implemented in the UK, Brexit or no Brexit.

The industry will simply turn round and point out to the DfT that this wasn't per the franchise agreement and thus it will affect the financial viability of the operation, putting at risk the ability to deliver the service. The government won't want to take the franchise off the holder and run the service directly, so the requirements will be quietly ignored.

This is a prime example of EU meddling in things which aren't any of their business.

ForTheLoveOf · 6 Dec 2018

Jonfun said:
None of this will ever be implemented in the UK, Brexit or no Brexit.

The industry will simply turn round and point out to the DfT that this wasn't per the franchise agreement and thus it will affect the financial viability of the operation, putting at risk the ability to deliver the service. The government won't want to take the franchise off the holder and run the service directly, so the requirements will be quietly ignored.

This is a prime example of EU meddling in things which aren't any of their business.

I rather suspect that, if the Regulation ever comes to roost, by that time most franchise agreements will either have been renegotiated or have terminated naturally!

Bedpan · 7 Dec 2018

Bletchleyite said:
A minimum of eight bicycles to be carried on all trains!

Another excuse for Thameslink..."This train has been cancelled due to insufficient bicycles being on board" <:D

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