fairliered
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Does anyone know whether the through Ayr to Edinburgh services will be 380s, 385s or will no longer run through.
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ScotRail December 2018 Timetable change
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Five services from Ayr still run through to Edinburgh. One even goes to North Berwick.
Do you think 385s will get on them at somepoint ?
Still a good few cancellations which should hopefully start to clear off as the training completes, however the one big positive is that there were twelve Edinburgh bound movements over Newbridge this morning between 0659 and 0758 and the service doesn’t seem to have fallen to bits. There was one cancelled service which if it had ran it would have passed through easily making it thirteen within the hour.
So that hopefully should answer one of the questions that has continued to be repeated over the last few months - yes Newbridge can cope with the planned movements.
So that hopefully should answer one of the questions that has continued to be repeated over the last few months - yes Newbridge can cope with the planned movements.
At approximately the same time (0702 to 0801) there were twelve went the opposite way with one cancelled.
Newbridge was the pinch point that certain people kept bringing up that had the potential for problems. If everything runs to plan (ideal world I know) there is no problem with the planned movements at Newbridge.
I agree Haymarket has more potential to screw it but it has very rarely been mentioned as the potential problem here.
1. This is not actually a given 2. I am sure today was not "perfect" - as many have been eager to point out.
My point was that it has been implied on numerous occasions that regardless of the timetable Newbridge would go to hell in a handcart.
If there is disruption of course there are going to be problems but the timetable does work which is my point.
The point was never made that Newbridge Junction would struggle in normal timetable. The point was that it struggles with 10-11tph when one thing goes wrong which results in a chain reaction. Using one day of nothing going wrong to prove that Newbridge can cope is bizarre. The first time there is disruption I still worry about Newbridge.
I saw this and similar ones on RTT
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/G80046/2018/12/10/advanced
Anyone know why it’s saying Kilmarnock to East Kilbride when it’s clearly a Kilmarnock to Central service?
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/G80046/2018/12/10/advanced
Anyone know why it’s saying Kilmarnock to East Kilbride when it’s clearly a Kilmarnock to Central service?
Oh so it wasn’t you who said “Newbridge Junction is going to be mayhem come December”?
is it displayed at stations as a through service to East Kilbride? Because it clearly states that it joins with another train to depart to EKL from Central
Edit: I looked at National Rail station departures- the services are indeed advertised as through services to East Kilbride
This could be said of pretty much the majority of the mainline railway though, to some degree or another. It's true at Portobello Jn, Haymarket East Jn, Bridge Street Jn and at Marshgate Jn, Slade Lane Jn, it is definitely true at Castlefield Jn and Ordsall Lane Jn, and it's a serious problem at Windmill Bridge and Gloucester Road Jns, and at Woking Jn. It is a problem at Herne Hill Jns, at Proof House Jn, and at Woolmer Green Jn. Many of these problems are rather worse and cater to more movements than Newbridge Jn does. Is that a reason not to run trains?
snookertam
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Probably an issue with the Real Time Trains website
Altnabreac
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Funnily you forgot to say it was only “during disruption” that Newbridge Junction wouldn’t cope in each of these posts...
hexagon789
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Even though it's just that the service goes on to form an EK service after arriving at Glasgow Central? Seems a bit strange.
Mind you I suppose the Edinburgh-Ayr services are in a similar vein.
Forgot we were in a country where trains ran on time and absolutely perfectly every single time....
Trains WERE held most mornings due to late running services (from Milngavie mainly) when the frequency was 10tph. I see no reason why 12tph changes that. Thankfully it no longer affects my commute.
Strange to advertise that as through service . Arent some EK services linked with via Shotts 156s too >
hexagon789
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Possibly, not really sure. From what I remember am incoming EK forms an outgoing Kilmarnock and vice-versa. For the Shotts line an incoming semi-fast forms an outgoing stopper.
I has thought that was always the case apart from peak-time perhaps, but I could very easily be wrong and certain Shotts line services swap units with the EK services.
The incoming Barrheads I believe generally go on to form outgoing Barrheads if I remember rightly.
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That's exactly what it is.
The change of the ex-Inverurie, now Aberdeen–Glasgow service, to depart Perth a minute earlier has been getting some press given it makes it an on-peak service. Per the WTT, the change seems to be a decrease in booked time at both Stonehaven and Carnoustie by 30s, thereby making it a minute earlier by Perth.
Might of changed , remember coming off a Shotts 156 and back on it for EK service . Now there would be a risk of 158 going onto a EK service though this was only a few years i recall .
hexagon789
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Perhaps they used to, but stopped after 158s started operating on the Shotts line? I can remember Whifflet being mainly 158s, with Shotts 156s pre-electrification and adding into the Low Level services.
fairliered
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Have on several occasions used the 1549 Edinburgh to Glasgow Central via Carstairs to connect with the 1723 Glasgow Central to Largs, before realising it’s the same unit travelling through. The fact that the 1723 leaves from platform 6 whereas all other Largs trains leave from platforms 10 to 15 should be a clue!
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