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EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

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You know at the end of Mad Max 2 when the oil tanker the bad guys have been going all out to try and seize is found to be just full of sand, and the battered survivors sadly turn around and head into oblivion?

That will be MPs at about 9pm tonight.
 
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trash80 said:
I wonder if she'll resign this evening, wouldn't blame her!
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I read somewhere earlier that she's got a plane on standby to fly off to meet EU leaders tonight should the vote go the way we all expect.

Doesn't seem like the plans of someone who has resignation as a contingency plan
 
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The_Train said:
I read somewhere earlier that she's got a plane on standby to fly off to meet EU leaders tonight should the vote go the way we all expect.

Doesn't seem like the plans of someone who has resignation as a contingency plan
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What worries me is who would take over. At least with May we know she's useless, a u-turner, unloved by everyone, can't answer a straight question and never has a plan B to back up her plan A that she hasn't got.
What I don't want is a right-wing headbanger who knows exactly what they want; no-deal, WTO (if we're lucky) and their tax affairs hidden out of sight.
Perhaps May will finally realise she can't get this through parliament, and offer the MP's a watered-down Brexit and rub out some of her pathetic little red lines. If so, she can blame the result on the MP's and she can walk away relatively unscathed. "Don't blame me, guv, it's your sovereign Parliament wot you wanted wot you should blame, not me bruv innit".
 
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The_Train said:
I read somewhere earlier that she's got a plane on standby to fly off to meet EU leaders tonight should the vote go the way we all expect.

Doesn't seem like the plans of someone who has resignation as a contingency plan
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Might depend whether it's a narrow defeat or an absolute trouncing.
 
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trash80 said:
I wonder if she'll resign this evening, wouldn't blame her!
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I don't quite understand may. She doesn't need the money. She's pretty well off. Why is she doing this. There is something strange about her and her motivation. She already is pm. If she doesn't go what's in it for her. Notoririty ??
 
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DarloRich said:
I tend to agree. Corbyn is more deluded than i thought if he thinks he can force and then win and election then go to the EU and get a better deal!



almost any option is possible!
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Even the corbyn cult are starting to turn against him.. Mostly.. Some are just insane. Any criticism of Corbyn and its an instant attack from these crazies
 
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nidave said:
I don't quite understand may. She doesn't need the money. She's pretty well off. Why is she doing this. There is something strange about her and her motivation. She already is pm. If she doesn't go what's in it for her. Notoririty ??
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She's been promised a peerage if she owns this s**t?
 
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nidave said:
I don't quite understand may. She doesn't need the money. She's pretty well off. Why is she doing this. There is something strange about her and her motivation. She already is pm. If she doesn't go what's in it for her. Notoririty ??
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Maybe she's obsessed with delivering Brexit as otherwise she'll be remembered as a PM who didn't deliver....anything. Which would be quite some accolade.
 
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nidave said:
I don't quite understand may. She doesn't need the money. She's pretty well off. Why is she doing this. There is something strange about her and her motivation. She already is pm. If she doesn't go what's in it for her. Notoririty ??
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I know it may come as a shock to some, but a fair few politicians really are motivated by a desire to do good and to change things in the country. Personally I think May is an awful Prime Minister who probably doesn't the skills to do the job effectively and who has followed terribly misguided policies and done a lot of harm to the UK. But I would also say she is there because she genuinely believes she is doing the right thing, that the right thing is to deliver Brexit because of the referendum result, and that her plan is the only sensible way to do that. I disagree with her on those points, but I'm pretty sure she believes them. I'd also say she's the kind of person who will doggedly pursue what she believes to be right, even against very bad odds (I wouldn't be too surprised if in that respect the example of Mrs. Thatcher is lurking in her mind a bit too, although I really don't think May has enough ability to become another Thatcher). And because of that, she's not going anywhere in the near future unless her position as PM becomes utterly untenable.

Once Brexit has been resolved either way, then there's a fair chance she'll feel her job is done and she'll resign to make way for another Tory PM (who hopefully might be a little more talented, but I'm not really holding my breath at the moment :( )
 
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Finished? Their voting on amendment F at the moment!

That the UK can leave the backstop without the agreement of the EU
 
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May says MPs are there to serve the people who queued up to vote in the referendum and who put their faith in politicians.
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the rest of the country doesn't matter aparrently. Only one opinion counts. It's a very narrow view. They should be there to take all opinions into account.

This should be fun.
 
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Considering the conservatives voted against devotion and the GFA when it was passed by the people. The "will of the people" seems a very fluid concept in government.
 
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nidave said:
the rest of the country doesn't matter aparrently. Only one opinion counts. It's a very narrow view. They should be there to take all opinions into account.

This should be fun.
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That's been her attitude all along. "The people" in May-speak is very narrowly defined as those electors who voted for Brexit in 2016.
 
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A Challenge said:
Not really a good thing...
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It depends.

If the amendment had been passed, then it could possibly have made the deal more attractive to Conservative MPs who were reluctantly going to vote against. If one votes on a "clean" deal (IE: one with few amendments) it possibly gives a more accurate result.
It also creates some insurance should a hard-line leaver come in and muck-up the Northern Ireland situation. Given that Nadine Dorres et al. have described it as a non-issue, I'm not confident that such a leader would not cause problems.
 
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