Has any station in recent times been built without having trains calling at it? (Saving to have to wait for a timetable or franchise change).
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Has any station in recent times been built without having trains calling at it?
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Has any station in recent times been built without having trains calling at it? (Saving to have to wait for a timetable or franchise change).
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MadMac
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With regard to lack of an electric service at an electrified station, Holytown must be a strong contender. Wired in the early 70s and I don't think it's had any regularly scheduled electric service (other than longer-term diversions) to speak of since!
Not so - there was a period of time when every other Lanark service ran via Holytown, but that was stopped when the Lanark services started running to/from Glasgow Central high level.
Kite159
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In additional to the former hourly Lanark service mentioned by Mag_Seven, there is a couple additional peak EMU services which go via Holytown (07:36 Carstairs -Garscadden & 17:00 Anderston to Carstairs]
pdeaves
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A list of stations constructed but never opened is available at http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/stations/trivia.shtm#notopened. Do add to the thread any that are missing!
What is the position with electric services to (or should I say at) Leyland? While on the electrified WCML, I have the impression that all services stopping there have been diesel 'locals' (from Manchester, etc.)
As far as I am aware it had no electric locals until the 319s started stopping there.
61653 HTAFC
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I have a vague memory of something at some point this century where a route/stations were reopened/upgraded but weren't initially served- can't recall where though!
IIRC the terminal platforms at Brum Moor Street were unused for a while after being rebuilt.
IIRC the terminal platforms at Brum Moor Street were unused for a while after being rebuilt.
Kite159
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Excluding stations which are under recently installed wires but not yet running EMUs in passenger service (for example Manchester - Bolton - Leyland, Walsall - Rugeley Trent Valey, Holytown - Kirknewton, Gospel Oak - Barking), the following I believe are under wires but have no EMUs calling:
Thirsk
Chester-Le-Street
Needham Market
South Tottenham
Woodgrange Park
Brunstane
Newcraighall
West Allerton
Mossley Hill
Pegswood
Acklington
Widdrington
Chathill
Manors
Cramlington
Fairfield (A quick glance at RTT shows only served by Rose Hill Marple trains)
Carnforth (I believe one of the platforms is wired)
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gg1
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I think the same is true of Earlestown.
Con
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In Dublin, on the South Western main line, Kishogue Station has been lying idle for years. More here: http://www.thejournal.ie/kishoge-3202996-Jan2017/
Kite159
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As a commuter from Leyland to Preston in the 1970's and 80's I do remember traveling with electric traction occasionally. If my DMU was running late there was a following train hauled by an electric loco which ran from Coventry to Lancaster. Also there was an EMU which ran from Crewe to Preston, returning in the afternoon. Not quite the same thing, but if our DMU back in the evening was seriously delayed they would often put a special stop order for Leyland on the London train,much to the chagrin of the other passengers. This couldn't happen today of course.
Deansgate had Altrincham trains pre-Metrolink, then terminators that turned near Manchester United, plus the match day services to Manchester United
It's not a station, it's just a large concrete trench. It hasn’t got any track, platforms, furniture, lifts, stairs or escalators. They just dug a bigger trench than originally needed so they wouldn’t have to knock the whole terminal down to create an extra pair of platforms if required in future.
Even if it had been fitted out upon construction, the underground layout is such that it'd be very hard to construe as 2 separate stations. It would closely resemble Dalston Junction station - a pair of central tracks flanked by loops around island platforms.
Did Brunstane and Newcraighall get class 322 from Glasgow?
londonmidland
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Looking at the maps, it there's an electrified loop between Warrington Bank Quay and Wigan North Western, diverging off the WCML north of Warrington and going through Earlestown and Newton-le-Williows, before rejoining back onto the WCML south of Wigan.
What's unusual is that the small section of the original BR electrification remains intact and in use by the newer electrification for the Liverpool - Manchester Victoria 319 services though before these were introduced, I assume nothing electric used the wires through Earlestown and Newton-le-Willows?
What's unusual is that the small section of the original BR electrification remains intact and in use by the newer electrification for the Liverpool - Manchester Victoria 319 services though before these were introduced, I assume nothing electric used the wires through Earlestown and Newton-le-Willows?
Possibly you're thinking of the Todmorden Curve, I seem to remember there being some delay between completion of construction and Northern conjuring up the DMUs to use on it...
In fact, I believe the same is now happening with the upgraded Halton Curve.
No, but they did get occasional 322 from Edinburgh for a bus to North Berwick during ECML engineering work on occasion.
EM2
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Lullingstone, between Swanley and Eynsford, was planned to serve a large airport, and got as far as two platforms and the steps for the footbridge being built, before WW2 broke out and work was halted. The airport never materialised so no further work took place, but for a while it was listed in timetables.
Maybe thats what i was thinking off. Keep thinking there was a service from Glasgow
As far as I am aware every timetable in recent history has featured some EMU from Deansgate. Various trains used to use the specially electrified reversing siding. Until May 2018 there wae a Deansgate to Stoke-on-Trent every weekday.
There is a long-standing 0715 service to Manchester Piccadilly via Glossop which is usually a 323.
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A 380 in the morning calls at all stations Carstairs-Edinburgh. The one that the 05:00 TPE off Manchester connects with at CRS.
Kite159
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Must have missed that one when scanning down the list
Virgin had a couple of ECS via Newton-le-Willows before any of the rest of the Chat Moss lines were electrified.
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