noddingdonkey
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That would be a much easier proposition for Northern, who haven't already sold advance tickets and seat reservations that would need to be reallocated in that situation.
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Hull Trains cancellations due to chronic shortage of available rolling stock
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That would be a much easier proposition for Northern, who haven't already sold advance tickets and seat reservations that would need to be reallocated in that situation.
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Could be done in the future then if things don't improve, which chances are they won't.
I'm pretty sure LNER did it once advances had been sold too...
Kite159
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However with the advice that any passengers booked on those cancelled trains to travel before or after and to give customer services a ring to get a seat reservation.
I'm not suggesting it's a good idea in terms of short term passenger experience, but over time it may help. The only other option is the HST which in itself could cause problems as it may be filled up with enthusiasts...
Kite159
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Why would enthusiasts take interest of a HST running services over a route which already sees HSTs running daily? It isn't like a HST to Hull is something out of the ordinary as LNER have their token daily service.
Everyone that I've spoken to has expressed an interest in having a spin if it comes off.
You never know...
People have gone to Scotland to try the HSTs - ultimately it's a HST in an alien livery in that part of the country so they may still go
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They can’t even get one set over there... Set was due to move to Bristol yesterday, but curtailed at Laira due to an AWS fault on 43165. Onward move to Hull today cancelled.
Each to their own etc. I was lucky enough to have caned in all of the class 41/43 before they became popular and got some stick for going for my last few 43s back in the days before Valenta removal wasn't even on the table.
I will almost certainly head North of the border for a run on the new sets, not because they are HST, but because the last time I had a nice relaxed run from Glasgow / Perth etc to Aberdeen or up the middle was in loco hauled days. I just see little point in going up there for a poorly aligned and - to me - uncomfortable run on a 170 when my primary reason will be to sit and stare out of the window. I made a similar trip a year back on the Edinburgh to Plymouth HST, simply because it had been such a long time since I had enjoyed a trip down the classic route of "Table 51" and I wasn't likely to do it on a 220/221 for no other reason that I wanted to do it in an uncrowded train of decent length.
Trans Pennine is my next goal. A route I have done loads of times, but more recent trips have been on rammed 185s with no hope of a "pleasant" window gazing trip. New trains, more seats, fingers crossed.
As for the back on topic Hull trains. No great interest what ever to me because I could do the route easily / comfortably.
The context of course is stick a hauled set on it and I would be tempted with the rest!
4 more cancellations announced for tomorrow with 2 journeys turning at Doncaster too! Must have known I'd foolishly booked HT only for later in the week
Glad I excluded HT for a trip I've just booked for the end of Feb!
There’s nothing to say their services will still be affected by then. When they have a train fail it has a massive affect by cancelling 25% of the already infrequent service. This is due to the lack of trains they have. My previous issues with them have been when they have had long term issues with trains but have falsely claimed each day that services would be back to normal the following day when they have already known this to be incorrect. They appear to have improved on that front.
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Why do/did LNER/GNER/VTEC Etc have that service to Hull and I think possibly to Bradford, Skipton & Harrogate?
Why wouldn't they? They are all popular services as far as I know.
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The service to Hull runs because it is in the franchise agreement. As a rule it is dead after Doncaster, I’ve had a carriage to myself a number of times Doncaster-Hull. There used to be a southbound working on Sunday afternoon but that got canned a few years ago so Sunday is just northbound now.
We're on our way back from the US with our children, I am not willing to risk a HT no-show.
DannyMich2018
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I couldn't agree more!! I can't see the new HT Class 802 entering service entering service soon anytime in the next few months or so
Then I suggest an LNER direct if you can make the 1 train per day or an LNER and Northern connection from Doncaster if it’s not a Saturday and you can risk not having a seat on a 2 car 142 between Doncaster and Hull. An open ticket would certainly give you the flexibility you need if the HT doesn’t run but would obviously cost more.
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Delivery in August, in service in December is latest story
So the customer service issue today appears to be poor announcement of reinstating a service.
This is disappointing.
The 1512 was cancelled, and alternatives were put in place. Fortunately they managed to deal with the train fault and reainstate that service with a slight (40 minutes is what they consider slight) delay.
Unfortunately this message had not been passed to everyone and people have gone to catch the alternative options and are forced to pay £100 for doing so.
It’s a tricky one, I understand they want to run their own train so they don’t have to pay out but once again they’ve completely fallen apart on the communication side and this has cost passengers money and their reputation will sink even further.
This is disappointing.
The 1512 was cancelled, and alternatives were put in place. Fortunately they managed to deal with the train fault and reainstate that service with a slight (40 minutes is what they consider slight) delay.
Unfortunately this message had not been passed to everyone and people have gone to catch the alternative options and are forced to pay £100 for doing so.
It’s a tricky one, I understand they want to run their own train so they don’t have to pay out but once again they’ve completely fallen apart on the communication side and this has cost passengers money and their reputation will sink even further.
johnnychips
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And of course having to repath it has affected the other trains, including the Edinburgh-London train just behind it which I got on at Donny. Not a lot though! Incidentally 10/10 for Doncaster dispatch staff at p1 who are really on the ball tonight.
It's now failed at grantham. Not looking good again.
johnnychips
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Yes it has failed at Grantham. Now sat on LNER train behind in some retail park. Better start posting on International thread about what to do if you hold a CIV ticket and you miss the last train to Brussels!
Edit 1743 - moving again fingers crossed!
Edit 1743 - moving again fingers crossed!
The answer to your question is be thankful you have a CIV
I don’t want to go too far off topic, but something I’ve wondered for a while is what is the point of the LNER/VTEC/East Coast service between Kings Crossa and Skipton. It has such a long dwell time at Leeds that it’s no quicker than changing. The buffet isn’t open between Leeds and Skipton either. It all seems a bit pointless on the couple of times I’ve used it.
johnnychips
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Couldn’t see the failed HT train in Grantham station so perhaps moved to siding. Our train didn’t make additional stop, so don’t know what happened to their passengers. We arrived Kings Cross about 15 late, but Eurostar delayed anyway 
, 12 late.
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